KMS Hindenburg class supercarrier(WIP)

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KMS Hindenburg class supercarrier(WIP)

MitcheLL300
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Dec 1 2009, 08:38 PM #1

What if germany created a carrier out of the h class carriers?
A friend did one on paper, and looked pritty cool.
So i thought lets give it a try.
The one i create is based on the hull from the H41 (16'' tripple x3 version of the h class)
It is aprox 296 up to 306 meter long.
I made mine to 304 meter long.
Stats of the carrier.
It's a aircraft carrier above 300 meter, so can be seen as an ''supercarrier''
It has four dual 5'' dual cannons as main armament.
Next to that it has four single 5'' single cannons in the hull (compared to the 8'' singles x8 from gz thats quite less)

The ship has also one edge elevator, on the portside.
And two deck elevators.
It carriers about 110-130 aircraft (non jet)

It's not finished yet.


* a little bit bigger then the graf zeppelin, she stil has four hull guns, but doesnt lose as much as hangar capacity as the GZ does whit her 8x 8'' singles*

Oh, her conningtower is on the deck, but she also has an build out structure.
Above that structure is a passage wich will be filled up whit anti air guns, and a lookout bridge.

Any suggestions?
Ships in the list:
1.M Frigate, all versions
2.Hrms Holland Class all view
3.Hrms Van nes
4.KMS H44
5.HMS Lion
6.FNS Normandie
7.Rotterdam Class
8.Johan De Witt Class
9.LCF Class
10.S Frigate Class
11.L Frigate Class
12.LG Frigate

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Dec 1 2009, 09:03 PM #2

Interesting concept. Now, I wonder how one based on an H-44 hull would look like?
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Dec 1 2009, 09:07 PM #3

CanisD @ Dec 1 2009, 09:03 PM wrote: Interesting concept. Now, I wonder how one based on an H-44 hull would look like?
Bigger then any other exicsting carrier's today.
That would just be insane, just like habbakruk carrier.
The h44 carrier can be like.
350meter long
60meter wide.

Whit todays technolegy, that thing can be like 80-85 meter wide i quess.

That is just insane.... <_<
H44 itself whas already insane whit its 20'' x8 barrels.
*btw off topic question, anybody knows where the h44 would have been build?
Does there even exist a dry dock so big at that time?*

Oh btw, i ment the h42 hull in the 1st post.
H41 would have been 275 meter (Little bit larger Graf zeppelin size)


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Ships in the list:
1.M Frigate, all versions
2.Hrms Holland Class all view
3.Hrms Van nes
4.KMS H44
5.HMS Lion
6.FNS Normandie
7.Rotterdam Class
8.Johan De Witt Class
9.LCF Class
10.S Frigate Class
11.L Frigate Class
12.LG Frigate

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Dec 2 2009, 09:18 AM #4

I think Vierling mountings instead of single 20mm ones would fit better.
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Dec 2 2009, 09:19 AM #5

Mitch, you gonna do a top view of her?
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gollevainen @ Mar 30 2010, 08:51 AM wrote:During 1942, German's were mostly assisting Soviets in close in demonstrations of armoured tactics :rolleyes:
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Dec 2 2009, 09:33 AM #6

meyer @ Dec 2 2009, 09:18 AM wrote: I think Vierling mountings instead of single 20mm ones would fit better.
The 20mm's are the one on the lowest platforms right? :P
Anybody has an vierling that has nice details?
And i dont think i will be doing a top view.
Maby, when i got the time...
Mitch ;)
Ships in the list:
1.M Frigate, all versions
2.Hrms Holland Class all view
3.Hrms Van nes
4.KMS H44
5.HMS Lion
6.FNS Normandie
7.Rotterdam Class
8.Johan De Witt Class
9.LCF Class
10.S Frigate Class
11.L Frigate Class
12.LG Frigate

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Dec 2 2009, 12:40 PM #7

Very Interesting :) The bridge? Maybe you should also be looking to raise it a little, no?
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Dec 2 2009, 02:29 PM #8

Hmm, is it possible by 1945 to make an overhang bridge?
Because then the guns can be more to the inside then the bridge.
Otherwise i just modify and add an huge bridge :P
And maby one radar per side, instead of after each other.
Ships in the list:
1.M Frigate, all versions
2.Hrms Holland Class all view
3.Hrms Van nes
4.KMS H44
5.HMS Lion
6.FNS Normandie
7.Rotterdam Class
8.Johan De Witt Class
9.LCF Class
10.S Frigate Class
11.L Frigate Class
12.LG Frigate

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Dec 2 2009, 03:15 PM #9

dead image link ;)
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''IK VAL AAN VOLGT MIJ'' --> ''FOLLOW ME'' Karel Doorman, 1942 Battle of the Java sea.
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Dec 2 2009, 04:24 PM #10

Hmm. ill reupload then.


The newest update will come in post 1, soon Very soon.
Ships in the list:
1.M Frigate, all versions
2.Hrms Holland Class all view
3.Hrms Van nes
4.KMS H44
5.HMS Lion
6.FNS Normandie
7.Rotterdam Class
8.Johan De Witt Class
9.LCF Class
10.S Frigate Class
11.L Frigate Class
12.LG Frigate

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Dec 2 2009, 05:51 PM #11

Bridge needs to be raised some - it's essential for the view from the bridge over the full area of the ship that can be seen. As it stands, the bridge sits below the roof level of that 15cm turret in front of it.
It's not overkill, it's Insurance.

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Dec 2 2009, 05:57 PM #12

Sauragnmon @ Dec 2 2009, 05:51 PM wrote: Bridge needs to be raised some - it's essential for the view from the bridge over the full area of the ship that can be seen. As it stands, the bridge sits below the roof level of that 15cm turret in front of it.
Result of that:
Ships in the list:
1.M Frigate, all versions
2.Hrms Holland Class all view
3.Hrms Van nes
4.KMS H44
5.HMS Lion
6.FNS Normandie
7.Rotterdam Class
8.Johan De Witt Class
9.LCF Class
10.S Frigate Class
11.L Frigate Class
12.LG Frigate

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Dec 3 2009, 07:50 AM #13

First pic updated.
But again the question.
Is an overhang possible at 1945-46?
Just like this, or less.
Ships in the list:
1.M Frigate, all versions
2.Hrms Holland Class all view
3.Hrms Van nes
4.KMS H44
5.HMS Lion
6.FNS Normandie
7.Rotterdam Class
8.Johan De Witt Class
9.LCF Class
10.S Frigate Class
11.L Frigate Class
12.LG Frigate

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Dec 3 2009, 07:55 AM #14

MitcheLL300 @ Dec 3 2009, 07:50 AM wrote: First pic updated.
But again the question.
Is an overhang possible at 1945-46?
Just like this, or less.
certainly an overhang is possible, there was steel strong enough.
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Dec 3 2009, 08:02 AM #15

Ok, because then my idea whas to place the bridge on an overhang.
And the 5'' duals ''maby'' aswell.
And then making smaller overhang's whit the .50cals and other AA weapons.
Instead of using the small overhang i created for the hallway, and above that the aa gun positions.
Ships in the list:
1.M Frigate, all versions
2.Hrms Holland Class all view
3.Hrms Van nes
4.KMS H44
5.HMS Lion
6.FNS Normandie
7.Rotterdam Class
8.Johan De Witt Class
9.LCF Class
10.S Frigate Class
11.L Frigate Class
12.LG Frigate

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