Maturity

Sr. Owl
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3:50 PM - May 13, 2014 #1

In our western society, there is a predominance of obedience over autonomy. This recurrent submission to functional authority, denies the opportunity to evolve normal levels of maturity.

This trait shows the inherent passivity and ignorance of our days. The accomplishment of a mature knowledge of ourselves, the world, and the relationship between the two, is determinant to be a complete citizen.

With the absence of this qualities the crowd will only get more mechanical. When there is an external mediation of being, people become pavlovian cyborgs, whose behaviour is only determined by self-interest.

An outcast, a renegade, a hermit, it doesn't matter...something is better than to be rotting over there.

What am I doing here? That is the question! :D
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welkyn
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6:27 PM - May 28, 2014 #2

What's more, I would argue that there is no knowledge of ought beyond the self; what else to know, who else to know it? Then one who has a mature knowledge of the self has no need of knowledge of worlds or relationships, but these are entailed in the former, all-encompassing knowledge.
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3:01 AM - May 29, 2014 #3

There can be no maturity without knowledge of self.
It is the starting place from which all else follows.
To even begin to know self, one must first commit oneself to honesty, both foreign and domestic.
Paradoxically, knowing oneself permits being able to know everything else. But the self must come first.

Self knowledge begins with knowing one does not know, thus honesty is required to accept that this is so.
How best to catch a mackerel? They are the slipperiest of things.
If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.



"Squawk!" said the crow, and then made space.
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8:36 AM - May 30, 2014 #4

Maturity does not imply consistency is also something that must be said.

It implies consistently acknowledging reality as separate from oneself, and thus there is the infinite capacity and love for the surprises the world throws in your face. Life is both a clown and an executioner, and the mature man allows himself reprieve under both aspects of this being. What is 'never fair' for the ego, is unequivocally *just right* for the mature man.

Wittgenstein has a good quote on this score.

Wittgenstein: "If we take eternity to mean ... timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present. Our life has no end."

If we suppose the world has an ego of its own, we realize the meaninglessness of our own.


Change alone is unchanging. --- Heraclitus //////// To the ego, the world is an infinite leap away. To the world, there is nothing. This explains the breach.

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crow
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5:04 PM - Jun 19, 2018 #5

It's all about time. Seriously. It really is.

"Squawk!" said the crow, and then made space.
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10:10 PM - Jun 19, 2018 #6

Stencilmad said "It implies consistently acknowledging reality as separate from oneself" this is not true.
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crow
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11:13 PM - Jun 19, 2018 #7

Most things people cling to are not true. It irks, but there's no changing it.
"Squawk!" said the crow, and then made space.
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