- tough dime die pairs i've found, die pairs that don't fit neatly/easily into Gerry's web book and/or better examples -

Open forum for Liberty Seated Dimes, including questions, new discoveries and latest purchases!

- tough dime die pairs i've found, die pairs that don't fit neatly/easily into Gerry's web book and/or better examples -

ken-pollock
New Member
ken-pollock
New Member
Joined: January 15th, 2018, 10:46 am

January 15th, 2018, 11:41 am #1

this is an:  1839-O  F-109  (R6)   " Lapped Die, Stars 1-3 Weak / Small O, Rev 1840-O "
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... 09page.htm

Gerry's quote from the comments section: ...."More difficult is Varieties 107 and 109, which is the pairing of the 1839-O Huge O lapped obverse die with two different Small O reverse dies.  The first pairing is with Small O Reverse B and should command a very significant premium if available.  The final pairing of the Huge O obverse with a second Small O Reverse G is also very rare at this time with two examples extant.".... link: http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... arpage.htm

so even if this coin of mine, looks like it's been through a war or something like that, it may be only the 3rd example known(?).

1839 o dime F-109 R6 pics jan 2018c2 029a.jpg 1839 o dime F-109 R6 pics jan 2018c2 025a.jpg
Quote
Like
Share

ken-pollock
New Member
ken-pollock
New Member
Joined: January 15th, 2018, 10:46 am

May 22nd, 2018, 5:30 pm #2

1856-O - Variety 103 - Obverse 1.3: Medium Level Date, Die Cracks Star 6 Through Star 11, Clashed Die ... Reverse C: Medium O, [mm Lt,C], Die Crack From Right Lower Wreath To Rim
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... 03page.htm  
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... arpage.htm

quoting Gerry: "Obverse 1 has been polished or lapped". Gerry gives this die pair a rarity estimate of R7 for VF-Mint State grades (edit/update 5/25/2018: according to Gerry's Obverse & Reverse Die Gallery with Rarity Rating page for this die pair::  http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/pictorial/1856o.htm  - it's a Rarity: R5+. so since rarity estimates tend to go lower over time and not higher, R5+ is probably more accurate). i estimate my new find & purchase to be ~F12. the "1" in my coin's date is very much disappearing. (edit) i forgot to mention: the dies used on my coin were slightly rotated. i rotated my obverse to compensate for this when i took my pics. i took my pics through a flip fwiw.

5-22-2018  1856-O - med O - F-103 - R7 - lapped obvs 002a.jpg
5-22-2018  1856-O - med O - F-103 - R7 - lapped obvs 008a.jpg
Last edited by ken-pollock on May 25th, 2018, 6:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Quote
Like
Share

ken-pollock
New Member
ken-pollock
New Member
Joined: January 15th, 2018, 10:46 am

May 23rd, 2018, 7:28 pm #3

1890 Variety 103:  Obverse 3: Proof Die, High Date, Downward Slope...Reverse C: Proof Die

quoting Gerry: "CommentsFour die pairs were used to strike 1890 proof coinage. The rarity of the individual die pairs has not been assessed." 

this coin i recently found & purchased was not listed as a proof...it was just listed as a circulated business strike coin. i think it's in the AU53+ range. Gerry gives the F-103 proof die pair an R4 rarity estimate. *** since this coin has a strongly clashed obvs. and a clashed revs. w/ die cracks also, i suspect this later die state example of F-103 would likely be even less common and receive a higher R rating. i think clashing and die cracks on proof dies are uncommon features. variety F-103a is the business strike die pair...i see differences in the dates between the F-103 proof die pair & the F-103a-c business strike die series, so some updating to the web-book is needed here.*** 

http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... 03page.htm
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... arpage.htm
http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/4787 5-23-2018  1890 dime R4+ proof die later die state of F-103 038a obvs.jpg
5-23-2018  1890 dime R4+ proof die later die state of F-103 034a.jpg
Quote
Like
Share

ken-pollock
New Member
ken-pollock
New Member
Joined: January 15th, 2018, 10:46 am

June 11th, 2018, 8:38 pm #4

*** 1891-O (this is a new die pair) ***  it's similar to F-115 & F-132 with regard to date position. there's heavy obverse clashing, a clashed "E"showing (i like clashed "E" L.S. dimes) and some die cracks. i consider the reverse to be a shattered reverse with at least 5 die cracks radiating out to the rim. the reverse is also clashed. it think the coin's in the AU53 range.

http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... arpage.htm
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... 15page.htm
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date ... 32page.htm
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/pictorial/1891o.htm

1891-o Liberty Seated Dime. au 53+ looks like F-115 but it isn't obvrs.jpg
1891-o Liberty Seated Dime. au 53+ looks like F-115 but it isn't revs.jpg 1891-o Liberty Seated Dime. au 53+ looks like F-115 but it isn't obvrs-date.jpg 1891-o Liberty Seated Dime. au 53+ looks like F-115 but it isn't revs-mint.jpg
Quote
Like
Share