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12:33 AM - May 03, 2018 #121

"It would only make sense if everyone graduated"

Clarkston graduated everyone and still in the OAA Red.  I would have to double check my score sheet, but I think that HP should have returned at least one starter.  Everyone in the Red either lost quite a few players such as Troy or weren't that good such as Southfield and North Farmington.  I did miss both Bloomfield Hills games so don't know that much about them other than they beat WB in the state tournament and finished in 5th placed in league standings during the regular season behind Clarkston, Hazel Park, Troy, and West Bloomfield.

Lake Orion gave Clarkston it's best game score wise during the state tournament.  2 of their 4 losses were against the Wolves so they were underrated and unranked in the polls that I saw online IMHO.
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9:28 AM - May 25, 2018 #122

https://www.mlive.com/expo/erry-2018/05 ... new_h.html

Pinconning, Shepherd find new home in Jack Pine Conference
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majorhoople
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10:49 AM - May 25, 2018 #123

TVC will have to realign - again.
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11:47 AM - May 25, 2018 #124

Yeah just pure speculation on my part but heard rumblings that Lake Fenton and Goodrich are applying to both the Flint Metro and Saginaw Valley, also heard they might try to pull in Powers Catholic and a few other schools to create something new.  I wonder if none of that happens if they would not be a temporary solution to the TVC losing these two teams, was also wondering if the TVC would not look at Ogemaw Heights as a temporary thing.  Have a feeling there will be more shifting coming up in the area of Genesee and Saginaw counties. 
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1:35 PM - May 25, 2018 #125

Easiest solution is to have 3 divisions with 6 teams. Two are already that way. After Pinconning leaves just shift a team from the West to replace Shepherd in the Central. Best options are Hemlock or Ithaca.
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1:37 PM - May 25, 2018 #126

Other option is to open up applications to add 6 schools them realign afterward.
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8:27 AM - May 27, 2018 #127

Vandals05 wrote: Easiest solution is to have 3 divisions with 6 teams. Two are already that way. After Pinconning leaves just shift a team from the West to replace Shepherd in the Central. Best options are Hemlock or Ithaca.
Then each school would have to find four OOC games or play four crossovers, or combination of OOC and crossovers.

Might as well do two nine-team divisions. Each school would play other eight division members and one crossover on common open date.
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12:17 PM - May 27, 2018 #128

Ogemaw Heights is in a very interesting position. They could go south, west, or north depending on what happens with other leagues (the continued status of the Traverse City schools in the Big North is the big one)
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8:57 AM - May 29, 2018 #129

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9:03 AM - May 29, 2018 #130

majorhoople wrote:
Vandals05 wrote: Easiest solution is to have 3 divisions with 6 teams. Two are already that way. After Pinconning leaves just shift a team from the West to replace Shepherd in the Central. Best options are Hemlock or Ithaca.
Then each school would have to find four OOC games or play four crossovers, or combination of OOC and crossovers.

Might as well do two nine-team divisions. Each school would play other eight division members and one crossover on common open date.
The only issue I see with that is the size of the schools. I think if they do that the smaller schools like Nouvel, MLS, and St. Charles will start looking elsewhere. They don't want to be playing those larger schools from the Central/East division. If you added the smallest two schools you would add Standish and Millington to the west. Standish has an enrollment of 494 while Nouvel has an enrollment of 180. I think it would be easier to schedule non conference games. The MSAC also only has 6 teams and could easily schedule with the west division. The 2 larger divisions could do crossovers with each other. Based on enrollment rather than geography this is what two 9 team divisions would look like. 

Nouvel 180
MLS 193
St. Charles 282
Valley Lutheran 323
St. Louis 331
Hemlock 374
Ithaca 388
Millington 390
Standish-Sterling 494

Carrollton 504
Frankenmuth 549
Birch Run 552
Bullock Creek 555
Swan Valley 573
Garber 576
Freeland 584
Bridgeport 618
Alma 643
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