20120218 Death Valley Canyoneering - BIG rapps

Joined: 10:35 PM - Sep 27, 2007

6:14 PM - Feb 20, 2012 #1

Scott, Aysel, Yannick, Shirley, Amanda and I did some big stuff. First descents or whatnot. Two big rapps, first one was 370ft, second was 350ft.

We got a core shot on the second rappel. So, we had to pass it 200ft up in the air. It was uncomfortable, to say the least.

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Approach


R1


R2


Aysel going down first on the 370ft'er




A bit far down eh?








Tiny people




More


Close up


~


Amanda


Next rapp 350ft




Right before reaching the core shot


At a ledge most of the way down, after passing the core shot.


Rapp


Amanda and Aysel with the core shot we all passed. Nobody died.


Going home, with the 370ft'er in the background


A short rapp


Going home

Album with a couple videos: http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/T ... ?start=all
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Elwood
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1:17 AM - Feb 21, 2012 #2

Beautiful pictures Mr. Taco. Those 300' ++ rappels are way cool.
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1:18 AM - Feb 21, 2012 #3

Im so glad youre all ok. Especially you hon.  aside from the NDE, It looks really cool!
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Joined: 12:22 AM - Nov 07, 2008

9:10 AM - Feb 21, 2012 #4

Glad you got a chance to go out there and experience a DV mega canyon.  I really loved the day i spent in Cerebus in Dec.  Very cool, Taco et al!... 'cept for that core shot, freaky.
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Joined: 6:33 PM - Sep 30, 2007

5:04 PM - Feb 21, 2012 #5

Super pictures! Thanks for posting. You just have to love Death Valley. It's hard to believe that 150 years ago the 49er's were struggling to get out of the place alive. Now it's a playground.

By the way, check out Michel Digonnet's description of Bad Canyon in "Hiking Death Valley". I keep hoping one of our canyoneers will take on it's 200 foot dryfall.
"It is our task in our time and in our generation, to hand down undiminished to those who come after us, as was handed down to us by those who went before, the natural wealth and beauty which is ours."

President John F. Kennedy
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Joined: 10:35 PM - Sep 27, 2007

8:26 PM - Feb 21, 2012 #6

I think folks do Bad Cyn on a regular basis, no?
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Joined: 7:35 PM - Jan 27, 2010

1:08 AM - Feb 22, 2012 #7

RichardK:39987 wrote:By the way, check out Michel Digonnet's description of Bad Canyon in "Hiking Death Valley". I keep hoping one of our canyoneers will take on it's 200 foot dryfall.
A photo from Bad Canyon of a smaller (but much more aesthetic) dryfall down canyon from the 200 foot dryfall you mention.

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Joined: 7:35 PM - Jan 27, 2010

1:24 AM - Feb 22, 2012 #8

Taco:39966 wrote:Two big rapps, first one was 370ft, second was 350ft.

We got a core shot on the second rappel. So, we had to pass it 200ft up in the air. It was uncomfortable, to say the least.
Yikes!  :shock:

A few questions from someone trying to understand this a bit better... please don't take them as criticism or Monday-morning quarterbacking.  From the Widowmaker thread it's abundantly clear I should be the last to do that!

1) Did the core shot occur at some sort of obvious feature?  A rough spot on the rock?  Perhaps a lip where a less-than-vertical polished chute transitioned to a free rappel?

2) Were you moving the rope between rappellers?

3) Would you describe the rope as "fully-static" or "semi-static"?  Was there much bouncing on rappel?

4) Did you consider isolating the core shot with an alpine butterfly and passing it on rappel?  (Only an option if either (a) you are confident there are no equally large rappels down canyon, (b) you can escape the canyon, or (c) you are prepared to spend one or more nights awaiting rescue.)
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Joined: 10:35 PM - Sep 27, 2007

9:16 AM - Feb 22, 2012 #9

Hey Mark, I'll talk to you in person about it. :-) I'm implementing a no-explaino online policy. :-) I think I'm getting more stressed-out explaining it to people online than actually living through it. :-)

(that said...
1. Not really
2. Yes
3. Randy's rope, no clue
4. Yes, but was not possible due to things I'd explain in person)
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