DYESTAT Rankings

DYESTAT Rankings

Anonymous Coward
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September 25th, 2011, 3:41 am #1

http://rise.espn.go.com/track-and-xc/ca ... TrackAndXC

CIF-STATE CROSS-COUNTRY
DIVISIONAL TEAM RANKINGS
By Rich Gonzalez, ESPNHS Editor

Released on Saturday, September 24th at 4:30 a.m.

DIVISION I GIRLS
Notes: This division figures to get many questions answered this weekend.
1. Great Oak, Temecula (SS)
2. Dana Hills, Dana Point (SS)
3. Torrey Pines, San Diego (SD)
4. San Clemente (SS)
5. Trabuco Hills, Mission Viejo (SS)
6. Vista (SD)
7. Buchanan, Clovis (CE)
8. Arcadia (SS)
9. Ventura (SS)
10. Granada, Livermore (NC)

DIVISION II GIRLS
Notes: Toughest single division in terms of quality depth in U.S prep
history. Several very strong teams can't even break into the Top 10.
1. Simi Valley (SS)
2. La Costa Canyon, Carlsbad (SD)
3. Saugus, Santa Clarita (SS)
4. Tesoro, Las Flores (SS)
5. Woodbridge, Irvine (SS)
6. Mira Costa, Manhattan Beach (SS)
7. Redondo Union, Redondo Beach (SS)
8. Thousand Oaks (SS)
9. Foothill, Santa Ana (SS)
10. Canyon, Anaheim (SS)

DIVISION III GIRLS
Notes: Don't read too much into defending champ Campolindo
being down at #4. On paper, they should be fine at the end.
1. Palos Verdes, Palos Verdes Estates (SS)
2. Cathedral Catholic, San Diego (SD)
3. Acalanes, Bonita, La Verne (NC)
4. Campolindo, Moraga (NC)
5. Corona del Mar, Newport Beach (SS)
6. Vista Del Lago, Folsom (SJ)
7. Canyon Crest Academy, San Diego (SD)
8. Bonita, La Verne (SS)
9. San Luis Obispo (SS)
10. West Torrance, Torrance (SS)

DIVISION IV GIRLS
Notes: Newcomers to JSerra make them tough commodity.
1. JSerra, San Juan Capistrano (SS)
2. Harvard/Westlake, North Hollywood (SS)
3. San Lorenzo Valley, Felton (CC)
4. La Reina, Thousand Oaks (SS)
5. Flintridge Sacred Heart, La Canada Flintridge (SS)
6. Mayfield, Pasadena (SS)
7. El Segundo (SS)
8. Del Norte, San Diego (SD)
9. Half Moon Bay (CC)
10. Bret Harte, Altaville (SJ)

DIVISION I BOYS
Notes: If Rancho Cucamonga can avoid being snakebite, they
are every bit as good as Loyola. Trabuco Hills was without
its #1 at Woodbridge. With him in lineup, they project ahead
of Stockdale and as good as Great Oak.
1. Arcadia (SS)
2. Rancho Cucamonga (SS)
3. Great Oak, Temecula (SS)
4. Trabuco Hills, Mission Viejo (SS)
5. Stockdale, Bakersfield (CE)
6. Bellarmine, San Jose (CC)
7. Long Beach Poly, Long Beach (SS)
8. Buchanan, Clovis (CE)
9. Vista Murrieta, Murrieta (SS)
10. El Toro, Lake Forest (SS)

DIVISION II BOYS
Notes: Loyola's co-#1 finished last for them at Mt. Carmel. If
the young Cubs mature, should avenge early losses to SD teams.
1. Golden Valley, Santa Clarita (SS)
2. Ramona (SD)
3. La Costa Canyon, Carlsbad (SD)
4. Loyola, Los Angeles (SS)
5. Peninsula, Rolling Hills Estates (SS)
6. Saugus, Santa Clarita (SS)
7. Hart, Newhall (SS)
8. Glendora (SS)
9. Madera South, Madera (CE)
10. Woodcreek, Roseville (SJ)

DIVISION III BOYS
Notes: If healthy, Palos Verdes has the makings of something very special.
1. Palos Verdes, Palos Verdes Estates (SS)
2. St. John Bosco, Bellflower (SS)
3. Campolindo, Moraga (NC)
4. Cathedral, Los Angeles (SS)
5. Damien, La Verne (SS)
6. Cathedral Catholic, San Diego (SD)
7. West Torrance, Torrance (SS)
8. Piner, Santa Rosa (NC)
9. Granite Hills, Apple Valley (SS)
10. South Pasadena (SS)



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Anonymous Coward
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September 25th, 2011, 8:24 pm #2

http://www.rtspt.com/events/stanford/xcinvite11/d3g.txt - combined times change things up a bit.
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Anonymous Coward
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September 25th, 2011, 8:51 pm #3

That's CCHS's B Team. Their A team was in Seeded.

Campolindo is still the class of the Division, but were dropped to 4th in the rankings due to a poor performance earlier.
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Anonymous Coward
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September 25th, 2011, 9:07 pm #4

Didn't see that there were two teams entered, but now that you mention it...
Combined times compare like this...
Campolindo 92:29
Vista del Lago 94:44
Corona del Mar 96:35
Santa Margarita 97:00
Oakmont 97:02
Apto 98:07
Cathedral Catholic (A team "seeded" race) 99:16
...a little different than the rankings
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Anonymous Coward
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September 25th, 2011, 9:24 pm #5

True,
but their #1, ran about :40 seconds slower per mile than normal. #2 ran about :30 seconds slower per mile, and the #4 and #5 also ran slower than their norm. Come State, It should be a race to see if anyone can catch Campolindo.
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Common sense
Common sense

September 25th, 2011, 10:01 pm #6

How about instead of arguing about how good a San Diego team is or isn't, we cheer for the great performances that our San Diego kids have achieved. SDS was represented well at Stanford on both the guys and girls sides! Great job everyone! LCC girls did work and I don't see how anyone can beat them in the state. LCC guys showed up well, congress big Fahy on the win. Your guy's team looks solid. Cathedral guys have a strong pack, should be fun to watch them improve. RB did well too! It's always great to see our Section represented like that! Another shout out to the Ramona guys for their race up at Nike pre-nats. Great job Dylan on that outstanding race!
Go SDS!!
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Anonymous Coward
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September 25th, 2011, 10:08 pm #7

Wow, there's a stretch. Hardly arguing. The thread was on Rankings. It isn't about 1 race. As was mentioned in Dyestat, they had Campolindo ranked lower, due to a poor performance. CCHS was ranked where it was, because they have a strong squad and beat the same teams you mentioned (RB, TP, CACR)and everyone except LCC.

If you really want to talk, how about we discuss where each team is in their training cycle? Which teams have been doing speed work all year vs teams that haven't started?

LCC is obviously the class of area. No argument on that. There are a ton of threads on them as well. So rather than have this turn into a LCC love fest, I posted about ALL of the ranked teams, or did you miss that. It doesn't take a genius to know they were going to dominate. I was simply posting data, which you were obviously unaware of. So, Lighten up francis, the RANKINGS thread was simply meant to open a discussion, on a very inactive board.
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Common sense
Common sense

September 25th, 2011, 11:42 pm #8

Congratulations, speed poster! Seven minuets is that a new PR? I'm glad you spend your day on the message board.
First, rankings don't mean anything. That's why they have the race. And did Cathedral girls live up to their expectation, no probably not but that doesn't mean they can't do better. I actually believe they will do a lot better because of the way they're coached. Their guys team ran well and will most likely remain in the same spot. The fact that they beat some D1 and D2 teams is impressive because they're D3, all the power to them! None of this oh our number one was 40 seconds of their PR... Oh and 2 through 7 could have ran faster too. Yeah sure anyone can say that. So here's the discussion you asked for on this very inactive board. Now I expect 40 seconds faster on your next post, c'mon you can do it! Beat your RANKING, oh wait... Rankings don't matter
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Anonymous Coward
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September 26th, 2011, 1:47 am #9

Here's a news flash for you...It's called Google Chrome and Tabs. I am in front of a computer for 6-12 hours a day, so when someone posts, it isn't tough to respond.

Rankings don't mean anything? Actually, they are fairly accurate about which teams are at the top. The more races are run, the more accurate they are. So FAIL on this statement. As for Cathedral girls not performing as well, another Brilliant assessment. Hmmmm. Anyone that knows this team, would have known they would not have run as well this week. Ever hear of injuries? How about the other 3 races? Think Dyestat pulled their rankings out of thin air? So yes, you do have a body of work you can look at, and say 2-7 will run faster as they have shown all year. Also, where they are in their training cycle and history of this program, also shows they will run faster at the end, when it counts.

Now, as for the discussion, it's too bad you chose to go negative. No need for it here Francis. San Diego has a ton of great teams and talent.
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Anonymous Coward
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September 26th, 2011, 4:15 am #10

Thank you both for livening it up! It was getting kind of boring.

What's the deal with the Stanford meet this year. There were a couple good teams/kids up there from other parts ... but for the most part, it looks like lower competition up there this year overall (non-SD kids). Is that correct?
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