Two Driver Swings

Two Driver Swings

Joined: October 11th, 2001, 7:22 pm

April 17th, 2011, 6:17 pm #1



One is a 3/4 "Trahan Style" swing and produced 111 mph club head speed. The other is a "SmackIrishman57" swing cranking it at 122 mph. Both swings were dead solid straight. (The ball is not as far forward as it appears in the footage. I can't seem to get this right when videoing.)

Can you tell from these stills which swing produced the higher club head speed? Here's the links to the two swings in case you want to have a look see and know for sure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPW_Od4qIzA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P1jSF2Grxw



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Joined: January 13th, 2001, 8:30 am

April 18th, 2011, 12:24 am #2

the one on the right is the higher speed?

Herbert
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

April 18th, 2011, 3:55 am #3



One is a 3/4 "Trahan Style" swing and produced 111 mph club head speed. The other is a "SmackIrishman57" swing cranking it at 122 mph. Both swings were dead solid straight. (The ball is not as far forward as it appears in the footage. I can't seem to get this right when videoing.)

Can you tell from these stills which swing produced the higher club head speed? Here's the links to the two swings in case you want to have a look see and know for sure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPW_Od4qIzA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P1jSF2Grxw



Never quit til you have a swing you'll never forget!
The one on the right:

1) Your hips are more open (implying faster rotation)

2) Your lead leg is more bent (implying greater/faster weight transfer)

3) The expression on your face is more strained

4) The 'blur' of the club head is larger

Peter
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Joined: October 11th, 2001, 7:22 pm

April 18th, 2011, 11:04 am #4

5. More shoulder tilt implying faster rotation there too....

About that blur...I only get this blur when shooting face-on pics...down the line the shaft is very clear with little blur...why is that? Also when looking at the blur...which "side" of the blur would I use to evaluate the shaft angle? The blur makes it hard to compare impact position....

Is this a function of the cheap Casio I have because other high speed video I see doesn't show this blur...

Kevin

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Joined: April 30th, 2001, 4:02 pm

April 18th, 2011, 1:27 pm #5

are 2 dimensional. They can only register movement in the xy plane defined by the camera angle. You get more blur face on because the club is moving most rapidly in the xy plane being captured by the 2D orientation of this camera angle. Down-the-line, the club head is moving most rapidly in the third dimension (the z-axis which is away from the camera) and not very fast in the xy axis of this camera angle.

This is a problem with the current crop of Casio Exilim high speed cameras because they only have a shutter speed of 1/1000 or 1/2000 of a second. If you want crystal clear high speed video, you're going to have to pop for the Casio Exilim Pro EX-F1 which has a shutter speed of 1/40000 second. These are not being sold in the US any more, but you can still find them on eBay for > $1000.
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Joined: February 10th, 2010, 12:54 am

April 18th, 2011, 2:18 pm #6



One is a 3/4 "Trahan Style" swing and produced 111 mph club head speed. The other is a "SmackIrishman57" swing cranking it at 122 mph. Both swings were dead solid straight. (The ball is not as far forward as it appears in the footage. I can't seem to get this right when videoing.)

Can you tell from these stills which swing produced the higher club head speed? Here's the links to the two swings in case you want to have a look see and know for sure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPW_Od4qIzA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P1jSF2Grxw



Never quit til you have a swing you'll never forget!
Looks like a great playing swing...your torso/head stay back more, whereas with the faster swing you seem to move forward a bit. Since your swing is longer and your turned so much you probably need a big move forward to get to the ball. Is your miss when "going after it" to the right?

I noticed your trail leg straightens and lead arm bends quite a bit..is this for a bigger backswing? I wonder what the speed difference/consistency would be if you didn't do this?
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

April 19th, 2011, 3:40 am #7

5. More shoulder tilt implying faster rotation there too....

About that blur...I only get this blur when shooting face-on pics...down the line the shaft is very clear with little blur...why is that? Also when looking at the blur...which "side" of the blur would I use to evaluate the shaft angle? The blur makes it hard to compare impact position....

Is this a function of the cheap Casio I have because other high speed video I see doesn't show this blur...

Kevin

Never quit til you have a swing you'll never forget!
When you set shutter speed on the Casio make certain that it is fixed and won't be changed by the camera if underexposed. That blur looks like too slow a shutter speed but 1/1000 sec should be enough to make it clear at that point in the swing and 1/1000 sec does require a LOT of light for proper exposure.

Peter
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Joined: July 27th, 2000, 11:22 pm

April 19th, 2011, 4:38 am #8



One is a 3/4 "Trahan Style" swing and produced 111 mph club head speed. The other is a "SmackIrishman57" swing cranking it at 122 mph. Both swings were dead solid straight. (The ball is not as far forward as it appears in the footage. I can't seem to get this right when videoing.)

Can you tell from these stills which swing produced the higher club head speed? Here's the links to the two swings in case you want to have a look see and know for sure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPW_Od4qIzA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P1jSF2Grxw



Never quit til you have a swing you'll never forget!
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Joined: October 11th, 2001, 7:22 pm

April 19th, 2011, 11:04 am #9

Looks like a great playing swing...your torso/head stay back more, whereas with the faster swing you seem to move forward a bit. Since your swing is longer and your turned so much you probably need a big move forward to get to the ball. Is your miss when "going after it" to the right?

I noticed your trail leg straightens and lead arm bends quite a bit..is this for a bigger backswing? I wonder what the speed difference/consistency would be if you didn't do this?
The slide...both these shots were dead straight, but when I do miss now it is straight right, no curve... .

Lead arm bend is prob due to force of swing....Cranking on it seems to make it more....but it bends on full swings with short irons too...I quit obsessing about it. Some good players have this too...Daly...Couples.

While my trail leg straightens..I don't get taller at TOS and no sway back either....two things I have worked on this winter.

The bigger the swing...more erratic....that's why ld guys only have to place one outs six! My playing swing is somewhere between those two...

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