Toe up to toe up?

Toe up to toe up?

Joined: August 16th, 2005, 10:50 am

August 22nd, 2011, 6:56 pm #1

Which SA methods teach a toe-up to toe-up style (of arm rotation, I guess), and which do not?

-Don
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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

August 22nd, 2011, 8:47 pm #2

All of the SA styles produce a 'toe up to toe up' motion of the club but none of them teach 'arm rotation'.

Peter
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August 22nd, 2011, 8:56 pm #3

They don't all have the same clubface at the top, do they? I'm thinking some are shut and some are neutral?
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Joined: October 26th, 2000, 5:07 pm

August 22nd, 2011, 9:06 pm #4

All of the SA styles produce a 'toe up to toe up' motion of the club but none of them teach 'arm rotation'.

Peter
I would think would not be toe up to toe up?
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August 22nd, 2011, 9:43 pm #5

I thought HSS would not be. I'm not sure about some of the other flavors of SA.
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August 22nd, 2011, 11:36 pm #6

Which SA methods teach a toe-up to toe-up style (of arm rotation, I guess), and which do not?

-Don
I just found that this has been discussed mucho in the archives. The consensus was that only HSS and Mindy Blake swings were not toe up to toe up. (But there was dissent of course.)

It's funny, though, that in some of the earlier NG materials I've seen, even photos of Todd Graves in their book, the clubhead is shut at the top ala Mindy Blake. It seems to depend on the era and maybe even the instructor at NG?

To be that shut at the top, you'd not likely be toe up at the normal parallel checkpoint in the backswing.

I'm asking because I had a GREAT range session using the Mindy Blake swing (Version 1.0), and I was noodling on if and how that arm motion might have been incorporated into a regular SA swing. From the archives it sounds as if most who did something like that ended up fighting hooks.

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August 23rd, 2011, 12:33 am #7

that the Mindy Blake method is not SA. An alternative swing yes... SA... no.
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Joined: August 5th, 2002, 5:38 pm

August 23rd, 2011, 1:21 am #8

While I'm not currently using any of Blake's swing, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express and host:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/346986/


Cheers,Bob

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Joined: January 1st, 1970, 12:00 am

August 23rd, 2011, 1:58 am #9

They don't all have the same clubface at the top, do they? I'm thinking some are shut and some are neutral?
none are 'officially' neutral (though with IMA you might be closer to it depending on your results in 'balancing' the club). Most would be considered 'closed' in CG terms (note that LPG top of swing has no direct comparison to CG).

Peter
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August 23rd, 2011, 2:03 am #10

I would think would not be toe up to toe up?
if you are not 'toe up to toe up' you will probably not do the swing for very long because of damage to your wrist. The 'square' club face is only to just past impact then your lead arm needs to rotate as it reaches its limit of adduction. You would be shut at horizontal in the downswing but still somewhat toe up.

If you want a swing that really is different in this regard it would be the Blake swing.

Peter
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