Big Mac- what do you think about taking the club

Big Mac- what do you think about taking the club

Joined: October 29th, 2006, 3:58 pm

July 13th, 2010, 11:48 pm #1

back with a big arc where you move your arms as far away
as possible before turning the club up?
it seems to wind the body up tight as a tick and is hard to do
without good flexibility, i notice players like Woods really
strecth the club away before the wrist cock starts.

Dante in his book says he dosn't understand what the big arc
is about because on the downswing you want as small an
arc as posible, so why the big arc in the backswing-
To the reader he says "you tell us".

A lot of teachers say take the club back with a big arc so
what is your take on this?
Can one hit the ball farther with this big arc?

JC
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Joined: October 11th, 2001, 7:22 pm

July 14th, 2010, 10:27 am #2

I never want to think or try to do anything where my arms are acting independently of my torso. I set my lead arm on my pec, and I turn back as far as I can without swaying or losing the brace of the trail leg.

Classic long hitter instruction talks about width and such, but you don't have to have a big backswing in order to hit the ball a ton ( Allen Doyle ). In fact most ams won't hit the ball farther or better with a bigger backswing - more time for things to go wrong, hard to sequence everything with a bigger arc.

If you have a swing that has proper tempo, is sequenced well, and hits the absolutes, then a bigger arc may help you hit it farther, but the main distance factors are the same things that make for a good swing period. If you make a good turn back that builds torque, execute the Vital/Master move, keep the dog's hind leg, maintain trail wrist bend through impact - you will hit the ball far. Maybe not far enough to compete in the long drive, but far enough to be hitting lotsa "flip wedges" for approaches on most public courses!

Never quit til you have a swing you'll never forget!
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Joined: October 29th, 2006, 3:58 pm

July 14th, 2010, 5:32 pm #3

is not so much a bigger or longer BS, but the extension of the arms
away from the body before the wrists start to cock- does that
help improve your ball striking regardless of the lenght
of your BS?

Al Doyl extends his arms well away from his body- if he just
picked the club up like a lot of ams do, with his short swing
he would not hit very far.
Heck i think i just answered my question.

By the way, does Doyl cock his wrists with that short swing?

JC
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Joined: October 11th, 2001, 7:22 pm

July 15th, 2010, 11:45 am #4

get my arms away from my body with a big extension and hit the ball very well at all. I have tried the "hands high" big back swings, extending my arms back and away like you mention.and letting my trail elbow move away from my side, also letting my lead arm "slide" across my chest...all that.

I am just not that good...If you extend them away, they have to come back. And I have a hard time getting them back to where they need to be for a good impact position. I set my lead arm on my lead pec, and I try to keep my trail elbow "on station" - or as close as i can. I am addicted to these connections, and it is the way that works best for me now.

I think most of us are better served by a shorter, more connected swing...this extending them wide then back...it still won't make any difference if you can't execute a good Vital/Master Move and get your trail elbow to your trail hip with it still bent.

Never quit til you have a swing you'll never forget!
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