Should we base theology on end of Mark's Gospel?

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Gord
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12 Jan 2017, 19:49 #11

Dwf1 have a listen to John MacArthur's sermon regarding the ending of Mark's gospel. This was the finishing touch or last sermon to his 43 plus years of preaching through the New Testament one verse at a time. It is aptly titled and very very enlightening.

This should be a must listen to, of every student of bible study.  Be prepared to be amazed.

The Fitting End to Mark's Gospel
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David
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13 Jan 2017, 08:07 #12

Gord:25853 wrote:Dwf1 have a listen to John MacArthur's sermon regarding the ending of Mark's gospel. This was the finishing touch or last sermon to his 43 plus years of preaching through the New Testament one verse at a time. It is aptly titled and very very enlightening.

This should be a must listen to, of every student of bible study. Be prepared to be amazed.

The Fitting End to Mark's Gospel
Or you could read

http://av1611.com/kjbp/charts/themagicmarker.html

Reading through that document regarding Mark, it seems to delete every reference to judgment.
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13 Jan 2017, 13:37 #13

Hitch:25852 wrote:
joebonni:25850 wrote:I see what you are saying the ending of Mark Chapter 16 Verses 9 on Most Reformed Covenant Pastors I have heard preach this will not preach it they stop before the long ending. These same pastors will explain why they don't preach it mostly because they feel it was added later and not part of the gospel.

Doesnt that notion brings the entire NT under suspicion ?
Not really, for the maindoctrines of the Faith would not be effected, and we want to get to what theoriginal book had as conclusion....
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13 Jan 2017, 16:37 #14

DrWhofan1:25855 wrote:
Hitch:25852 wrote:
joebonni:25850 wrote:I see what you are saying the ending of Mark Chapter 16 Verses 9 on Most Reformed Covenant Pastors I have heard preach this will not preach it they stop before the long ending. These same pastors will explain why they don't preach it mostly because they feel it was added later and not part of the gospel.

Doesnt that notion brings the entire NT under suspicion ?
Not really, for the maindoctrines of the Faith would not be effected, and we want to get to what theoriginal book had as conclusion....
Im not aware of the Reformed doctrine that teaches 'some Scripture' is reliable.
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14 Jan 2017, 15:24 #15

Hitch:25856 wrote:
DrWhofan1:25855 wrote:
Hitch:25852 wrote:
Doesnt that notion brings the entire NT under suspicion ?
Not really, for the maindoctrines of the Faith would not be effected, and we want to get to what theoriginal book had as conclusion....
Im not aware of the Reformed doctrine that teaches 'some Scripture' is reliable.
ALL Scripture is indeed reliable, but the question is wasthe longer ending actually part of the original Scripture?
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joebonni
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18 Jan 2017, 00:54 #16

DrWhofan1:25859 wrote:
Hitch:25856 wrote:
DrWhofan1:25855 wrote: Not really, for the maindoctrines of the Faith would not be effected, and we want to get to what theoriginal book had as conclusion....
Im not aware of the Reformed doctrine that teaches 'some Scripture' is reliable.
ALL Scripture is indeed reliable, but the question is wasthe longer ending actually part of the original Scripture?

Dr Whofan1,

First off I love your questions they really make me think and I love that.  I went back and read the end of Mark and yeah it's been many years since I have even looked at that so I looked new to me for like 5 minutes.  Anyway I see what you are saying it's a very wacky ending not really sure what the point was but when they just had the Textus Receptus to go by and some other fragments that is the normal ending.  Since that time we have found way older text and that ending was not there so that's were the problem kinda started.  I just double checked and I have the 1560 Geneva Bible, 1599 Geneva Bible and the 1611 King James Version and they all treat that as a normal ending but remember that;s all they had back then.  I have an idea if you teach or preach and use one of the older versions go ahead and use the verses 9 thru 20 and if you use the newer versions just explain what happened or preach it it's really up to you..............
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DrWhofan1
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18 Jan 2017, 14:15 #17

joebonni:25865 wrote:
DrWhofan1:25859 wrote:
Hitch:25856 wrote: Im not aware of the Reformed doctrine that teaches 'some Scripture' is reliable.
ALL Scripture is indeed reliable, but the question is wasthe longer ending actually part of the original Scripture?

Dr Whofan1,

First off I love your questions they really make me think and I love that. I went back and read the end of Mark and yeah it's been many years since I have even looked at that so I looked new to me for like 5 minutes. Anyway I see what you are saying it's a very wacky ending not really sure what the point was but when they just had the Textus Receptus to go by and some other fragments that is the normal ending. Since that time we have found way older text and that ending was not there so that's were the problem kinda started. I just double checked and I have the 1560 Geneva Bible, 1599 Geneva Bible and the 1611 King James Version and they all treat that as a normal ending but remember that;s all they had back then. I have an idea if you teach or preach and use one of the older versions go ahead and use the verses 9 thru 20 and if you use the newer versions just explain what happened or preach it it's really up to you..............
That is correct, as the Kjv and Nkjv would be based off the TR geek text, and so would have that longer ending as the normal one, but those such as Nas/Niv/Esv, who used the Critical Greek text, would have notes saying longer ending not supported by best manuscripts.

My concern would be that I came out from Charasmatic circles, and they use that long endingto support some of their bad theology!
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