South American World Cup Qualifiers

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EL G
Joined: 12 Jul 2008, 13:18

11 Sep 2009, 10:19 #51

I hope so too as Venezuela is the only "CONMEBOL" country which still did not participate to World Cup final tournament.
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Aki13
Joined: 20 Dec 2006, 20:11

11 Sep 2009, 21:12 #52

I would also like to see Venezuela make it.
Seems like they still have a pretty good chance.
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yaniv
Joined: 01 Apr 2008, 19:47

12 Sep 2009, 06:47 #53

I would like to see Argentina making it!
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Bonnet
Joined: 08 Nov 2006, 02:12

12 Sep 2009, 09:56 #54

Bets:
10/10/09 Argentina - Peru 3-1
10/10/09 Colombia - Chile 2-1
10/10/09 Ecuador - Uruguay 2-0
10/10/09 Venezuela - Paraguay 2-1 (I am paraguayan supporter,but I hope only this time they are not going to force too much)
13/10/09 Paraguay - Colombia 0-0
13/10/09 Uruguay - Argentina 2-3
13/10/09 Brazil - Venezuela 4-0 (Brazil is unbeatable)
13/10/09 Chile - Ecuador 1-0
That means, Argentina would qualify and Ecuador at the fifth place. Although I hope that Venezuela can do it somehow.
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siepacz
Joined: 03 Nov 2006, 10:58

14 Sep 2009, 18:30 #55

Colombia won't beat Chile, nor Argentina can defeat Uruguay. They are too weak simply now. From there a significant surprise can result as World Cup without Argentina.
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Bonnet
Joined: 08 Nov 2006, 02:12

08 Oct 2009, 13:20 #56

siepacz wrote:Colombia won't beat Chile, nor Argentina can defeat Uruguay. They are too weak simply now. From there a significant surprise can result as World Cup without Argentina.
Well, I think, that Colombia is going to burst in that match to gain the last chance for the World Cup, also Venezeula.
And the Argentine are under high pressure, so I think that they will beat Uruguay (or at least one point) with a concentrate performance.
And if Argentina finish in 5th place, they'll surely beat the Central American team.
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trekky76
Joined: 28 Apr 2009, 09:00

27 Nov 2009, 15:05 #57

Chile facing suspension.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... 10&cc=5739
Would they be replaced with another team?
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

27 Nov 2009, 17:13 #58

Chile could be eliminated by FIFA due some trivial dispute over a relegated team... Ireland was eliminated by a handball goal, what should FIFA do?
Good old FIFA, mountains out of molehills, and vice versa.
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pieter
Joined: 03 Nov 2006, 16:49

27 Nov 2009, 19:20 #59

They cannot replace Chile by Ireland, why not Bahrain, Egypt (testmatch), Russia (away-goal rule) or 6th placed S.American team....
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Fast Midfielder
Joined: 26 Dec 2008, 16:44

27 Nov 2009, 19:49 #60

nfm24 wrote:Chile could be eliminated by FIFA due some trivial dispute over a relegated team... Ireland was eliminated by a handball goal, what should FIFA do?
Good old FIFA, mountains out of molehills, and vice versa.
Well, FIFA never will eliminate France as France is commercial far more attractive than Chile. It is not fair, but FIFA is not fair.
Non consistency is not new at FIFA. In 1934 they punished Romania for fielding an ineligible player (Gyula (or Iuliu) Baratky) in a qualifier against Switzerland (2-2). As Baratky played less than three years before for Hungary he was not eligible to play for Romania. FIFA changed tge match result against Switzerland in a 2-0 win for the Swiss. According to the rule at the time a player had to wait 3 years before chaging national team, Italy fielded in ithe 1934 World Cup qualifier and all its 1934 World Cup matches ineligible players (Luis Monti and Enrico Guaita) as well. Everyone knew at the time, including FIFA. But the Italians were not punished. Please can anyone tell me the logica of punishing Romania but not punishing Italy for the very same foul even concerning the very same tournament?
At least we learn one lesson which reminds me on the old Dutch saying misdaad loont, which means something like crime will be rewarded. FIFA says they are promoting fair play, but I think the promote foul play. There may be more examples of worldchampions who won the Cup by cheating, but Italy 1934 is the most absurd example, also becuase according to match reports they constantly have been supported by the refs.
So who are the real 1934 Worldchampions as it is obvious Italy is not. Is it Czechoslovakia? Austria? Spain? Strong sides that have not been beaten by Italy (I rather say an improved Italian XI) but by the referee.
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

27 Nov 2009, 22:21 #61

pieter wrote:They cannot replace Chile by Ireland, why not Bahrain, Egypt (testmatch), Russia (away-goal rule) or 6th placed S.American team....
I didn't mean Chile should be replaced by Ireland, or anyone else (Chile should still be accepted). I mean that FIFA has its priorities wrong. It could punish Chile strongly for such a minor issue, while doing nothing about major problems like illegal goals that can be easily seen on video replays.
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pieter
Joined: 03 Nov 2006, 16:49

29 Feb 2016, 17:24 #62

is there a specific reason why the S.American qualifiers of March are not on the roon ba?
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pieter
Joined: 03 Nov 2006, 16:49

06 Sep 2017, 07:20 #63

I read two matches of Bolivia awarded:  3-0 loss against Peru and Chili (september 2016)
so Bolivia loses 4 points.... 
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Phistra
Joined: 21 Nov 2013, 10:20

06 Oct 2017, 20:26 #64

We have a fight until the bitter end of the remained world cup spots in South America. Argentina is suffering a lot and could seriously miss next World Cup.
 I cross my fingers for Peru, which are waiting since 1982 of a world cup participation.
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

06 Oct 2017, 20:34 #65

What the hell happened to Colombia in the last minutes vs Paraguay - complete brain meltdown?
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Phistra
Joined: 21 Nov 2013, 10:20

07 Oct 2017, 22:55 #66

nfm24 wrote: What the hell happened to Colombia in the last minutes vs Paraguay - complete brain meltdown?
If Paraguay gain the qualification they should be write a thank-you-note to David Ospina.
Peru - Colombia will be the crucial live-or-die-match! 
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

11 Oct 2017, 02:08 #67

Boooo... Chile out, subdued by another piece of terrible goalkeeping and a general inability to defend.   Brazil's tactic of simply fouling whichever Chile attacker was nearest is dubious, but worked.    Paraguay bottled it and Peru got lucky!
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mattsanger92
Joined: 04 Jul 2011, 10:46

11 Oct 2017, 09:56 #68

nfm24 wrote:Peru got lucky!
Prepare to wander off to conspiracy corner... you can blame Falcao.

I don't think it's nessecarily a fix though, Peru were still going to want to win to get there directly if they could, but knowledge of Chile losing means they had something to hold onto as well.
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

11 Oct 2017, 10:01 #69

It wasn't a fix, I watched much of the game and only in the last 2 minutes or so did both sides basically settle for 1-1, when they knew that Chile had lost by 3 and Paraguay were not going to win.

It's a shame European quals haven't reached the level of excitement of the Concacaf and Conmebol endings.
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