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pieter
Joined: 03 Nov 2006, 16:49

02 Mar 2008, 16:41 #1

In 1987 San marino made her inetrnational appearance in the Games of Mediterranee in Aleppo (Syria)
16.9. Lebanon-SM 0-0
18.9 Syria-SM 3-0
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TheRoonBa
Joined: 31 Oct 2006, 22:16

02 Mar 2008, 19:58 #2

There is also 20.9 - Syria 6-1 Lebanon.
I just checked the Syria squad for the tournament: We can compare with the squad for the 1988 Asian Cup Finals. It seems 7 players out of the 11 played in the 1988 tournament (those marked **)
Id**, Khalil, Habib**, Hola (Tavernier), Layos**, Saad, Abousel (Abou El-Sel)**, Khouri**, Mahrouse**, Ahmed**, Dib.
1-Ahmed Eid, 17-Samer Darwish, 4 19-Joseph Layous, 3-Ammar Habib, 8-Abdul Kader Kerdeghly, 14-Mohammad Jakalan, 15-Georges Khoury, 7-Walid Abou El-Sel Kessail, 16-Munaf Ramadhan, 10-Faisal Ahmad.
So, I think we can definitely count the Syria v San Marino match as a full international. I am not so sure about Lebanon - I can't find any information on any of their players - but if Syria sent their full team, then I'd be surprised if Lebanon didn't do the same. Lebanon's national team seemed to be having some uncharacteristically poor results (7-0 and 8-0 defeats to Qatar, and two 6-0 defeats to Iraq in the 1986 World Cup Qualifiers), so perhaps this explains their poor performance at the Mediterranean Games.
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Aki13
Joined: 20 Dec 2006, 20:11

28 Feb 2009, 22:38 #3

I am a English man, but have watched San Marino on TV 4 or 5 times.
I remember them almost embarrasing Rep. Ireland losing only 2-1 at the death. I find it strange that sometimes you see them and they cant get out of their own half and lose 13-0, or just 2-0 but sometimes they do offer a bit more of a fight.
I really hope they can battle on and get a point in Quialifying, despite it being almost impossible.
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pieter
Joined: 03 Nov 2006, 16:49

01 Mar 2009, 09:01 #4

In 1986 Lebanon was in the middle of civil war and they retired from WC after this embarrassing results because it was very hard for them to get a team together and at that time they could not play any matches at home..
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Luca
Joined: 09 Feb 2011, 19:58

21 Mar 2012, 15:00 #5

Several sources adfirm that the first official match for San Marino was the following:
28/03/1986 Serravalle (Olympic Stadium)
San Marino - Canada Olympic 0 - 1
Goalscorer: Dante Maiani (own-goal)
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Giampaolo
Joined: 16 Feb 2011, 08:43

21 Mar 2012, 16:38 #6

Luca wrote:Several sources adfirm that the first official match for San Marino was the following:
28/03/1986 Serravalle (Olympic Stadium)
San Marino - Canada Olympic 0 - 1
Goalscorer: Dante Maiani (own-goal)
Not completely true.
The first (but not official) match was:
12.03.1986 Serravalle San Marino - Odense BK 1-1
Scorer for S.Marino: Fabio Gasperoni.
Odense BK is a Danish Club Team.
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

22 Mar 2012, 20:56 #7

Luca wrote:28/03/1986 Serravalle (Olympic Stadium)
San Marino - Canada Olympic 0 - 1
Goalscorer: Dante Maiani (own-goal)
Canadian sources and newspaper reports give the goal to James Grimes. Also San Marino made 7 subs, if that is considered important...
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Giampaolo
Joined: 16 Feb 2011, 08:43

22 Mar 2012, 22:12 #8

nfm24 wrote:
Luca wrote:28/03/1986 Serravalle (Olympic Stadium)
San Marino - Canada Olympic 0 - 1
Goalscorer: Dante Maiani (own-goal)
Canadian sources and newspaper reports give the goal to James Grimes. Also San Marino made 7 subs, if that is considered important...
Book "Il Calcio Sammarinese" , author Marco Zunino, edition of San Marino FA, reports an own-goal in the last minutes. 7 subs confirmed.
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Luca
Joined: 09 Feb 2011, 19:58

23 Mar 2012, 10:52 #9

L'Unità from the day 29/03/1986
http://archiviostorico.unita.it/cgi-bin ... o%20canada
reports also the exact minute of the goal: 78'.
Just a curious note: the Sammarinese player Dante Maiani was 39 years old when he played this friendly. He is probably one of the oldest debutants ever!
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Giampaolo
Joined: 16 Feb 2011, 08:43

23 Mar 2012, 11:46 #10

Luca wrote:Several sources adfirm that the first official match for San Marino was the following:
28/03/1986 San Marino - Canada Olympic 0 - 1
During the same tour, Canada XI played 2 Matches in Italy, as follows:
22.03.1986 Terni Italy Am. - Canada XI 1-2
25.03.1986 Gorizia Italy Am. - Canada XI 1-1
Italy Am. was the "Italian Amateur League" (Lega Italiana Dilettanti) Sel.
Canada XI should be labelled as "Youth" and not "Olympic", because during the next '88 OG, Canadian FA was allowed to field a full NT.
In addition, the Canada XI coach was Bob Bearpark, who had just trained Canada Youth Team during the U.20 World Championship in USSR(1985).
At that time, the NT coach was Tony Waiters, who was replaced by his assistant (Bob Bearpark), after the bad results of the Team during the '86 WC in Mexico.
Some components of Canada XI squad, during the Italian Tour, were:
Dolan, Gilfillan, Panhuysen, Ragan, Di Pasquale, Samuel, Ianiero, Lowery,
Bumbury, Grimes, Donasettis, Cubellis, Mobilio, Hooper.
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

23 Mar 2012, 12:13 #11

Luca wrote:L'Unità from the day 29/03/1986
http://archiviostorico.unita.it/cgi-bin ... o%20canada
reports also the exact minute of the goal: 78'.
So L'Unita, and the Canadian sources agree on Grimes. Only one Canadian newspaper mentioned the time of the goal, it said 71'.
According to the San Marino lineup, Dante Maiani was substituted out at 70'.
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

23 Mar 2012, 12:29 #12

This Canada team also played vs Switzerland's Olympic team on 1st April, losing 1-0. I have the Canadian lineups for all the four games on tour, if anybody wants them. I don't have the Italy amateurs lineups though (in those games neither team was an A national team so I didn't look).
Notes from an article in the Toronto Globe and Mail, Friday 14th March 1986:
Bob Bearpark will be coach for the tour to Italy, because Tony Waiters is preparing the World Cup training camp for April. The squad leaves for Italy on Tuesday (18th). Players from MISL (Major Indoor Soccer League) are unavailable (13 of them), only 4 regular players on trip (Dolan, Ragan, Paul James, Samuel). Much of the rest of the squad is from youth teams. Bruce Wilson is taking time off to be with family, while Pakos and Garraway have work commitments. Ragan will be captain.
The squad will play twice vs the Italy Amateur national team, once vs Italian army, and once vs La Chaux de Fonds (Canada's Ian Bridge plays for them).
In subsequent reports, the team was referred to as "Canada B" in Canadian sources. There were many young players but it was not purely a youth team. E.g. Randy Ragan was 26, Jamie Lowery 25. So I think B team is the most correct description.
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Giampaolo
Joined: 16 Feb 2011, 08:43

23 Mar 2012, 15:55 #13

Italy Amateur line-ups.
a. In Terni:
Biato, Polizzotto (74'Pedrinolla), Perlina, Valà (30'Petroni), Caramelli, Seeber, Zinanni (70'Zenari), Aversano (60'Bertolutti), Tolio (60'Cesarini),Varriale, Magnifico.
b. In Gorizia:
Valenzano, Pedrinolla, Perlina, Bertolutti (70'Aversano), Caselli, Seeber, Caramelli, Cesarini (65'Magnifico),Tollio (46'Petroni), Varriale, Zenari (50'Zinanni).
All of them from minor (amateur) Team Clubs.
Coach: Romolo Alzani.
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Luca
Joined: 09 Feb 2011, 19:58

23 Mar 2012, 20:24 #14

The most famous Sammarinese footballer ever was Massimo Bonini (European and World champion for Juventus in 1985). He couldn't take part in the match against Canada because Juventus didn't allow him to play, so he limited himself starting the kick-off...
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

23 Mar 2012, 21:14 #15

Giampaolo wrote:Varriale, Magnifico.
There really was a player called Magnifico ? Image
Luca wrote:The most famous Sammarinese footballer ever was Massimo Bonini (European and World champion for Juventus in 1985). He couldn't take part in the match against Canada because Juventus didn't allow him to play, so he limited himself starting the kick-off...
I did wonder why he wasn't in the team. So he was the "guest of honour".
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Luca
Joined: 09 Feb 2011, 19:58

23 Mar 2012, 21:35 #16

nfm24 wrote:
Giampaolo wrote:Varriale, Magnifico.
There really was a player called Magnifico ? Image
Yes! Even Freddie Mercury acclaimed him in Bohemian Rhapsody "Magnificooo" Image
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mattsanger92
Joined: 04 Jul 2011, 10:46

18 Mar 2013, 19:40 #17

I saw on The Roon Ba fixture list that a friendly against Italy is planned for the coming months? Apparently (and surprisingly) they have only met each other once at senior level...
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Fast Midfielder
Joined: 26 Dec 2008, 16:44

18 Mar 2013, 19:46 #18

yes, that was in 1992 and there was some reason for. One of the Italian players was sususpended for one friendly international and Italy's next one would be against Germany. In order to play with a complete team against the Germans they arranged another match before they played against the Germans and so Italy played against San Marino.
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TheRoonBa
Joined: 31 Oct 2006, 22:16

19 Mar 2013, 02:36 #19

Not too surprising that Italy haven't played more often against San Marino. The difference in quality makes the match pointless (unless it's to give the team scoring practice/confidence, which is probably why they arranged this recent one) and San Marino only joined FIFA in 1988.

Spain have also played Andorra only once. Mongolia played China only once as well, and that was in 1960. The Soviet Union didn't arrange many games v Afghanistan either as far as I know.
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Luca
Joined: 09 Feb 2011, 19:58

17 Oct 2013, 18:19 #20

The Sammarinese coach Giampaolo Mazza has just resigned after exactly 15 years of service.
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mattsanger92
Joined: 04 Jul 2011, 10:46

18 Oct 2013, 19:21 #21

Any idea on who the replacement might be? I got a beta copy of Football Manager 2014 yesterday, so I could apply on the promise that I practice with the national team for a few weeks first Image...
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SA
Joined: 28 Aug 2013, 19:41

03 Aug 2014, 09:18 #22

02/08/2014 San Marino - San Marino Calcio (italian lega-pro team, 3th level of italian football league) 1-1

http://www.smtvsanmarino.sm/sport/lega- ... marino-1-1

31/07/14 San Marino - AC Bellaria Igea Marina (italian serie d team, 4th level of italian football league) 2-0

http://www.smtvsanmarino.sm/sport/calci ... llaria-2-0

Next matches:
05/08/2014 vs. Santarcangiolese (italian lega-pro team, 3th level of italian football league)
06/08/2014 vs. Sammaurese (italian eccellenza emilia romagna team, 5th level of italian football league)

 
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SA
Joined: 28 Aug 2013, 19:41

09 Aug 2014, 21:09 #23

07/08/2014 vs. Santarcangelo (italian lega-pro team, 3th level of italian football league) 2-2
http://www.smtvsanmarino.sm/sport/calci ... angelo-2-2

 
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TheRoonBa
Joined: 31 Oct 2006, 22:16

10 Aug 2014, 21:14 #24

San Marino clearly picking all the big teams to play against. Santarcangelo should help prepare them for October's visit to England.
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

11 Aug 2014, 00:07 #25

It's just warming up, getting a team spirit together. I wouldn't say England are significantly better than a lower league club, based on recent form.
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Luca
Joined: 09 Feb 2011, 19:58

25 Apr 2015, 18:29 #26

Ladies and gentlemen, the following picture can be defined without doubt legendary. It shows a moment of the match San Marino-Turkey 0-0, played on March 10, 1993 and valid for the 1994 World Cup qualifiers.That was the first point conquered by San Marino in their World Cup history!
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Source: Guerin Sportivo 11 from 1993.
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pieter
Joined: 03 Nov 2006, 16:49

18 Feb 2017, 15:53 #27

anyone an idea of the "strenght" of S.Marino and Andorra
it will be the first time they meet, I am curious to see the result
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Kaizeler
Joined: 05 Apr 2012, 14:54

18 Feb 2017, 23:46 #28

To be fair, my ideas come from excel spreadsheets, rather than from watching any of those teams play (which is a shame really, with so many great highlight reels around). But on average, against the same level of opposition Andorra tend to lose by just about one goal less than San Marino, so that makes them slightly less bad. I would rate the minnows of Europe as Andorra > Gibraltar > San Marino.

With San Marino playing at home they might just have an edge, though it still is a very close match to call. At least that's what my overly complicated statistical modelling tells me.
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pieter
Joined: 03 Nov 2006, 16:49

20 Feb 2017, 09:05 #29

hope to see a first win for San Marino, but it could be 0-0 as both teams are used to defend....
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

21 Feb 2017, 22:49 #30

According to my less complicated statistics, if Andy Selva plays then San Marino could win, but I think Andorra are better at actual football (assuming that is what is being attempted in this case) so I am going for an Andorra 2-0.
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

21 Feb 2017, 22:57 #31

Mabel thinks both teams will field more of their youthful exuberant attacking players (who never normally get a game) instead of the crusty old hoofers, so she doubts that the usual performances of the teams will be relevant for this match. She is going for a 1-1 draw. I told her she analyzes too much...
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Ironhide
Joined: 02 Nov 2006, 21:07

23 Feb 2017, 09:53 #32

22.02.2017 - Serravalle
San Marino - Andorra 0:2 (0:1)28' Ildefons Lima (PG)
66' Cristian Martínez
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

23 Feb 2017, 11:50 #33

Silly Mabel.
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nfm24
Joined: 07 Apr 2007, 16:28

24 Feb 2017, 20:11 #34

I don't understand why SM didn't field Andy Selva. They surely know that they don't have anybody else who has any football ability. There is no excuse for leaving him out (even if he is injured, retired, or in jail or something).
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