Saint-Pierre and Miquelon

Canada, Mexico, Saint Pierre & Miquelon, United States of America

Saint-Pierre and Miquelon

Joined: December 31st, 1969, 7:00 pm

December 12th, 2006, 8:21 am #1

They have a very small domestic league with 3 clubs, and I believe (but not sure) that the clubs also participate in amateur leagues in mainland Canada (of course a regionalised league). Both islands (St Pierre and Miquelon) have a football ground, but expect no true stadium: it's just a pitch with two goals and a dressing room building.
I don't think they want to become FIFA/CONCACAF member, given the size of the islands, the few inhabitants (less than 10000) and harsh weather most of the year that doesn't make outdoor sports very easy.
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Joined: November 2nd, 2006, 1:11 pm

January 20th, 2007, 8:20 pm #2

Some youth teams might play in tournaments on Newfoundland, but I'm not so sure about the senior teams.
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Joined: January 3rd, 2007, 10:49 am

May 16th, 2007, 4:11 pm #3

Im sure i saw somewhere that St Pierre and Milquelon have played a Quebec select team as i saw a photo of the game on a website. With the national team always in Football Manager i thought they must have played some sort of game. Also the population there is 6,976.
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May 16th, 2007, 6:06 pm #4

I heard they played Belize a few years back, but I have no 'proof' of this.
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May 17th, 2007, 2:20 am #5

They played against the crew of some visiting ships, but never against Belize. The president of their FA confirmed me this by fax, because the rumour of the Belize match was always coming back.
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May 17th, 2007, 7:27 am #6

I found a picture of a football team in St Pierre and Milquelon but i understand french.
heres the link to the site www.agfspm.com/ds_pages/page68.html
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May 17th, 2007, 8:21 am #7

There are 3 clubs: AS Miquelon, AS St Pierre and AS Ilienne Amateur.
The national selection played in 1997 against Variétés Club de France (with Michel Platini) and lost 4-5. The Varietes Club is a kind of exhibition team with ex-footballers and other celebrities.
Football is only played from May to October outdoors.
The famous match against Belize (3-0 !) was played on 16.2.1999 but only in some peoples imagination. I remember it was on the ELO site and so I tried to find out what about is was true, but it did not.
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May 17th, 2007, 11:56 am #8

Any players born on the islands who went on to play professionally? I know of one player, but I can't remember his name at the moment. I think he played in Scotland for a spell.
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May 17th, 2007, 12:40 pm #9

On the national football team website there is a player called Yannis Begue from there but it does not say which club he played for. Ring any bells to anyone. Or just a nobody.
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May 17th, 2007, 11:03 pm #10

Ahhh thanks, that is the guy I was thinking about. He played with Raith Rovers from 1999-2000 only appearing in two games. He then went to Stirling Albion from 2000-2001 where he appeared in eleven games scoring two goals.
http://www.soccerbase.com/players_detai ... erid=18768
No record of him after 2001 - even though he was only 19 at the time.
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May 21st, 2007, 11:16 am #11

He was released at that time because the club stopped being full time and a lot of players were let go. He scored goals against East Stirlingshire and Hamilton Accies. The Albion Rovers site says he was French which maybe were he was born but with family from St Pierre and Milquelon.
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May 21st, 2007, 12:30 pm #12

People from St ¨Pierre et Miquelon are French citizens, so that is right.
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May 21st, 2007, 9:21 pm #13

Pictures from the L’association sportive Saint Pierraise 100th anniversary celebrations (1903-2003)....

http://www.patrickboez.com/Actu/ASSP/pages/F14.htm
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Joined: June 7th, 2007, 8:58 am

June 8th, 2007, 8:38 am #14

For the record, the mythical SPM-Belize result showed up once back in 1999 on a forum which is of course long gone. No date was given, so the date of the post (or a couple of days prior) was used for a hypothetical date.
So it is possible that some match did happen, and then someone got confused and posted the wrong data. I do not think it was a match between SPM and Belize national teams in any case. Although you never know.
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June 8th, 2007, 12:57 pm #15

It might have being a club side or a team made up of local Belizens since some teams in Liechtenstein cup were made up of local foreign players such as Schann Azzuri etc.
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June 8th, 2007, 2:03 pm #16

There was never a match between SPM and a Belize team
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June 8th, 2007, 2:52 pm #17

So SPM did not play at all against any team when they were supposed to play Belize?
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June 8th, 2007, 3:09 pm #18

No because it was in the long winter period and they have only a few months they can play outside.
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June 11th, 2007, 10:13 am #19

Actually the match venue was supposedly in Belize.
http://web.archive.org/web/200008231449 ... Belize.htm
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June 11th, 2007, 10:55 am #20

But the FA president confirmed me in a fax that this game NEVER took place. Nobody knows how this rumour started... Of course it is a pity they never played an international and Greenland seems to me a possible opponent but we cannot organise such a match for them...
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Joined: August 26th, 2007, 11:52 am

November 5th, 2008, 1:22 am #21

Just to let you know.... they have a few teams playing futsal in addition to the 3 outdoor 11-a-side teams.
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Joined: October 31st, 2006, 5:16 pm

November 5th, 2008, 2:07 am #22

As far as I know, apart from ship teams, Saint-Pierre & Miquelon has played only one other match, against a French all-star team, which I think was selected by Michel Platini.
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November 5th, 2008, 2:23 pm #23

I remember hearing some time ago and seeing a page on the web which had pictures and a report with a game for St Pierre and Miquelon against a Quebec XI. Im sure this was off the old forum.
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Joined: October 19th, 2007, 9:44 pm

November 5th, 2008, 5:12 pm #24

Really interesting!
Someone have got links of these two matches?
Daniele Fiore
FORZA ISCHIA!!!
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November 6th, 2008, 12:43 pm #25

21.6.1997 St Pierre et Miquelon-Variétés Club de France 4-5
VariétéCl: selection of former French international, playing for charity ...
3.2.1958 SPM-National Marine Selection (French Navy): no result known
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October 16th, 2009, 10:41 am #26

pieter wrote:21.6.1997 St Pierre et Miquelon-Variétés Club de France 4-5
VariétéCl: selection of former French international, playing for charity ...
3.2.1958 SPM-National Marine Selection (French Navy): no result known
http://ephemerides.free.fr/text.php?f_mois=06&f_jour=21
Lineups and goal scorers from the 1997 game.
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February 19th, 2010, 8:35 pm #27

How many clubs are in Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon?
On French Wiki, there are 8 clubs named, but on RSSSF are only 3.
So, what is TRUE number of clubs from this territory?
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ligue_de_f ... t-Miquelon
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Joined: October 31st, 2006, 5:16 pm

February 21st, 2010, 7:21 pm #28

The 3 teams who compete in the league are the 3 'civil' teams - open to members of the public. The other teams are corporate teams.
http://aliben.unblog.fr/tag/saint-pierre-et-miquelon/
This blog lists 3 civil teams, and 15 corporate teams
Civil teams:
“ASIA” Association Sportive Îlienne Amateur SAINT-PIERRE
“ASM” Association Sportive Miquelonnaise MIQUELON
”ASSP” Association Sportive Saint-Pierraise SAINT-PIERRE
Corporate teams:
Acti +
Amicale de la Commune Miquelon-Langlade MIQUELON
Chiken's Blues
Les Espadons SAINT-PIERRE
Association des Gringos SAINT-PIERRE
Gunners
Lézard Hache
Mean Machine
Olympique Saint-Pierrais SAINT-PIERRE
La Réserve SAINT-PIERRE
Revenants
“RFO” Réseau France Outre-Mer
Football Club Saint-Pierre SAINT-PIERRE
Les Vagabonds SAINT-PIERRE
Saint-Pierre Hand Ball Club SAINT-PIERRE
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Joined: June 23rd, 2010, 10:03 pm

June 28th, 2010, 4:12 pm #29

The treasurer of the St. Pierre and Miquelon national side has confirmed to me via email that they are playing at the 2010 Coupe de l'Outre-Mer in France in September. I believe this will be the first time they will play "true" national teams. They are in a group with returning champs, Reunion, Mayotte, and French Guiana. Tough going the first time out...
Link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupe_de_l ... e-Mer_2010
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Joined: October 31st, 2006, 5:16 pm

June 30th, 2010, 7:21 pm #30

topher80 wrote:The treasurer of the St. Pierre and Miquelon national side has confirmed to me via email that they are playing at the 2010 Coupe de l'Outre-Mer in France in September. I believe this will be the first time they will play "true" national teams. They are in a group with returning champs, Reunion, Mayotte, and French Guiana. Tough going the first time out...
Link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupe_de_l ... e-Mer_2010
Thanks - but this news has been known since April - check in the non-FIFA forum.
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September 26th, 2010, 4:31 am #31

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March 9th, 2011, 5:54 am #32

In 1904 the first match took place between the two islands: St Pierre vs Miquelon.... So there must have been more games between the two. Has anybody some results of this matches?
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January 23rd, 2013, 5:12 pm #33

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Joined: June 1st, 2018, 7:52 am

June 10th, 2018, 7:56 am #34

I think St Pierre is the only French dependency that doesn't play regularly now. 
I wonder why they don't join CONCACAF. Is anyone able to perhaps write them an email and ask? Might be awkward though as they're not in the Caribbean, wonder if the CFU would let them in.
Could also be a good thing for them to join the Island Games.
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June 10th, 2018, 9:17 am #35

They wouldn't get regular games against similar level opposition unless CONCACAF or CFU subsidised travel.  The Island Games would also be an idea, but travel would again be an issue - teams like Bermuda, with much greater resources, struggle to get a decent sized team to Europe for the Games.  I think the only reason they were able to play in the Coupe de l'Outre Mer was that it was financed by the French FA.  I don't expect them to play international football unless another tournament like that happens again (perhaps a North American mini-version with SPM, St. Barthélemy, St. Martin for the chance to play a 4-team tournament with Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana would be an idea).  Wallis & Futuna, Saint Martin and Saint Barthélemy all missed out on the Coupe de l'Outre Mer (the latter two would probably have been better than SPM), but as I mentioned, within North America, SPM is more geographically isolated from similar level teams than St. Barth or St. Martin.
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June 10th, 2018, 6:35 pm #36

TheRoonBa wrote: They wouldn't get regular games against similar level opposition unless CONCACAF or CFU subsidised travel.  The Island Games would also be an idea, but travel would again be an issue - teams like Bermuda, with much greater resources, struggle to get a decent sized team to Europe for the Games.  I think the only reason they were able to play in the Coupe de l'Outre Mer was that it was financed by the French FA.  I don't expect them to play international football unless another tournament like that happens again (perhaps a North American mini-version with SPM, St. Barthélemy, St. Martin for the chance to play a 4-team tournament with Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana would be an idea).  Wallis & Futuna, Saint Martin and Saint Barthélemy all missed out on the Coupe de l'Outre Mer (the latter two would probably have been better than SPM), but as I mentioned, within North America, SPM is more geographically isolated from similar level teams than St. Barth or St. Martin.
Surely CONCACAF would subsidize Montserrat in the Nations Cup if they ever had to go to Central America. Or if any of the islands had to go to Canada.

If not, though, I guess the Island Games.. well there’s a direct flight to Paris now. St Helena and the Falklands have it way harder, and they always send 10+ athletes (Falklands even send a football team). Are they subsidized by the British Olympic Committee? I think that would be best for them.
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