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Olympic Qualifies 1984

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11 Jan 2018, 14:24 #1

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DIE NEUE FUSSBALLWOCHE FUWO
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https://www.11v11.com/
http://www.rsssf.com/

EUROPE
Group 2 
1.EAST GERMANY     8  6  1  1  14- 5 13
2.Poland                        8  6  1  1  13- 6 13
3.Norway                       8  1  4  3   9-10  6
4.Denmark                    8  1  4  3   7-10  6
5.Finland                        8  0  2  6   5-17  2
 
04/05/83 Denmark 1-2 East Germany
Goals: Morten Donnerup 3' / Christian Backs 10', Hans-Uwe Pilz 49'
Denmark: Alex Nielsen, Michael Christensen, John Sivebaek, Ejnar Rahbek, Frank Clausen, Brian Chrøis, Pierre Larsen, Vilhelm Munk Nielsen (Michael Manniche 63), Alan Hansen, Morten Donnerup, Lars Lundkvist   
East Germany: Rene Müller, Norbert Trieloff, Ronald Kreer (Andreas Winter 89), Dirk Stahmann, Detlef Schößler, Hans Uwe Pilz, Andreas Trautmann, Christian Backs, Hans Richter (Harald Gramenz 68), Ralf Minge, Martin Busse
Århus. Städtischen Stadion. ARB.: Syme, Ferguson, Brounly (Scotland). 8500 spectators        
 
04/05/83 Finland 0-4 Poland
Goals: Henryk Miłoszewicz 16', Krzysztof Baran 55', Jaroslaw Biernat 85' 87'
Finland: Ismo Korhonen, Ilkka Remes, Pauno Kymäläinen, Mikael Granskog, Erkka Petäjä, Pasi Rasimus, Jari Rantanen, Juha Annunen (Ilpo Talvio 65), Kari Ukkonen, Ari Hjelm, Jari Parikka (Mika Lipponen 46)
Poland: Jacek Kazimierski, Dariusz Kubicki, Adam Walczak, Pawel Krol, Dariusz Wdowczyk, Miroslaw Pękala (Jaroslaw Biernat 46), Henryk Miłoszewicz, Adam Kensy, Marek Chojnacki, Krzysztof Jacek Baran (Jerzy Wijas 80), Andrzej Zgutczyński
Helsinki. ARB.: Fredriksson (Sweden). 5000 spectators.
 
18/05/83 Finland 0-1 East Germany 
Goal: Ronald Kreer 12'
Finland: Peter Lindholm (Ismo Korhonen 46), Pauno Kymäläinen (Jari Rantanen 51), Ari Lyytikkä, Mikael Granskog, Erkka Petäjä, Pasi Rasimus, Ilkka Remes, Kari Ukkonen, Mika Lipponen, Jari Parikka, Ari Hjelm      
East Germany: Rene Müller, Dirk Stahmann, Ronald Kreer, Uwe Zötzsche, Hans Uwe Pilz, Andreas Trautmann, Christian Backs, Bernd Wunderlich, Ralf Minge, Hans Richter (Harald Gramenz 61), Thomas Dennstedt      
Kokkola. Städtischen Stadion. ARB.: U.Eriksson, R.Ericsson, Andersson (Sweden). 4000 spectators.
 
19/05/83 Denmark 2-2 Norway
Goals: Michael Manniche 27', Brian Chrois 50' / Erik Soler 65', Stein Kollshaugen 80' penalty
Denmark: Lars Høgh, John Sivebaek, Ejnar Rahbek, Leif Hansen, Frank Clausen, Brian Chrøis, Pierre Larsen, Michael Schäfer, Morten Donnerup (Vilhelm Munk Nielsen 62), Michael Manniche, Lars Lundkvist (Alan Hansen 50)        
Norway: Erik Thorstvedt, Kjell Iversen (Jarle Ødegaard 73), Kai Erik Herlovsen, Terje Kojedal, Tor Brevik, Erik Soler, Arnt Kortgaard (Geir Johansen 57), Svein Fjaelberg, Stein Kollshaugen, Jan Berg, Vidar Hansen      
Århus. ARB.: R.Schroeters (Belgium). 2500 spectators.
 
25/05/83 Poland 3-2 Finland
Goals: Henryk Miłoszewicz 16' 65', Adam Kensy 28' penalty / Ari Hjelm 37' 53'
Poland: Jacek Kazimierski, Jerzy Wijas, Adam Walczak, Krzysztof Gawara, Dariusz Wdowczyk, Jaroslaw Biernat (Bak 46), Marek Chojnacki, Adam Kensy, Henryk Miłoszewicz, Krzysztof Jacek Baran (Miroslaw Pękala 80), Andrzej Zgutczyński      
Finland: Ismo Korhonen, Pauno Kymäläinen, Ari Lyytikkä, Mikael Granskog, Erkka Petäjä, Ilkka Remes, Pasi Rasimus, Kari Ukkonen, Jari Rantanen (Vesa Mars 75), Jari Parikka (Juha Annunen 17), Ari Hjelm       
Bialystok. ARB.: Redelfs (West Germany). 35000 spectators.
 
15/06/83 Finland 1-1 Norway
Goals: Juha Annunen 40' / Stein Kollshaugen 8'
Finland: Ismo Korhonen, Ilkka Remes, Pauno Kymäläinen, Mikael Granskog, Erkka Petäjä, Pasi Rasimus, Simo Kokko, Juha Annunen, Kari Ukkonen (Kimmo Lipponen 77), Mika Lipponen, Ari Hjelm (Jari Rantanen 77)  
Norway: Per Egil Nygård, Svein Fjaelberg, Terje Kojedal, Per Henriksen, Kai Erik Herlovsen, Stein Kollshaugen, Tor Brevik, Erik Soler, Øyvind Tomteberget (Tom Sundby 77), Geir Johansen (Jan Berg 46), Vidar Hansen
Kuopio. ARB.: A.Milchenko (USSR). 2000 spectators.      
 
22/06/83 Århus Denmark 3-0 Finland
Goals: Michael Spangsborg 38', Michael Laudrup 76' 89'
Denmark: Lars Høgh, Ole Østergaard, Leif Hansen, Pierre Larsen, Ejnar Rahbek, John Sivebaek, Morten Donnerup, Vilhelm Munk Nielsen, Michael Manniche (Tommy Christensen 87),  Michael Spangsborg (John Helt 69), Michael Laudrup     
Finland: Peter Lindholm, Ari Lyytikkä (Simo Kokko 46), Pauno Kymäläinen, Mikael Granskog, Erkka Petäjä, Pasi Rasimus, Ilkka Remes, Kari Ukkonen, Juha Annunen (Kimmo Lipponen 79), Mika Lipponen, Jari Rantanen 
ARB.: Quinou (France). 2000 spectators.
       
30/06/83 Norway 0-1 Poland
Goal: Andrzej Zgutczyński 73'
Norway: Per Egil Nygård, Svein Fjaelberg, Per Henriksen, Terje Kojedal, Tor Brevik, Stein Kollshaugen, Arnt Kortgaard (Jo Bergsvand 85), Erik Soler, Vidar Hansen, Tom Sundby (Nick Sandberg 69), Jan Berg    
Poland: Jacek Kazimierski, Dariusz Kubicki, Kazimierz Sokołowski, Krzysztof Gawara, Dariusz Wdowczyk (Paweł Król 80), Mirosław Pękala, Marek Chojnacki, Adam Kensy, Henryk Miłoszewicz (Jerzy Wijas 63), Andrzej Zgutczyński, Janusz Turowski   
Oslo. ARB.: E.Mulder (Netherlands). 10300 spectators.
 
17/08/83 Norway 1-1 Denmark
Goals: Stein Kollshaugen 24' penalty / Michael Manniche 43'
Norway: Erik Thorstvedt, Kai Erik Herlovsen, Per Henriksen, Terje Kojedal, Tor Brevik, Erik Soler, Stein Kollshaugen, Øyvind Tomteberget (Geir Johansen 82), Svein Fjaelberg (Arnt Kortgaard 41), Vidar Hansen, Tom Sundby       
Denmark: Troels Rasmussen, Ole Østergaard, Leif Hansen, Ejnar Rahbek, Frank Clausen, John Sivebaek, Pierre Larsen (Brian Chrøis 76), John Helt, Michael Spangsborg, Michael Manniche, Vilhelm Munk Nielsen (Morten Donnerup 46)    
Oslo. ARB.: H.Van Ettekoven (Netherlands). 8354 spectators.
 
24/08/83 Finland 0-0 Denmark
Finland: Peter Lindholm, Ari Lyytikkä, Pauno Kymäläinen, Mikael Granskog, Erkka Petäjä, Pasi Rasimus, Ilkka Remes, Juha Annunen, Mika Lipponen, Ari Hjelm, Arto Uimonen (Vesa Mars)      
Denmark: Troels Rasmussen, Ole Østergaard, Michael Christensen, Ejnar Rahbek, Pierre Larsen, John Sivebaek, Brian Chrøis, John Helt (Frank Clausen 46), Morten Donnerup, Keld Bordinggaard (Lars Lundkvist 73), Michael Spangsborg  
Rovaniemi. ARB.: Helm (Sweden). 2600 spectators.
 
07/09/83 East Germany 3-1 Poland
Goals: Jürgen Raab 5', Frank Pastor 82', Hans-Uwe Pilz 86' / Andrzej Zgutczyński 65'
East Germany: Rene Müller, Dirk Stahmann, Ronald Kreer, Andreas Trautmann, Uwe Zötzsche, Hans Uwe Pilz, Jürgen Raab, Christian Backs, Bernd Wunderlich (Frank Rohde 86), Ralf Minge, Martin Busse (Frank Pastor 56)     
Poland: Jozef Wandzik, Adam Walczak, Marek Chojnacki, Krzysztof Gawara, Marek Ostrowski,  Miroslaw Pękala, Adam Kensy, Piotr Romke (Kapica 46), Henryk Miłoszewicz, Andrzej Zgutczyński, Marek Lesniak (Kazimierz Sokolowski 81)    
Karl-Marx-Stadt. Ernst-Thälmann-Stadion. ARB.: Ponnet, Crucke, Van Volcem (Belgium). 16000 spectators. Yellow cards: Ronald Kreer, Dirk Stahmann, Jürgen Raab, Krzysztof Gawara, Adam Kensy, Rene Müller   
 
05/10/83 East Germany 1-0 Finland
Goal: Hans Richter 9'
East Germany: Rene Müller, Dirk Stahmann, Ronald Kreer, Thomas Dennstedt, Uwe Zötzsche, Hans Uwe Pilz, Frank Rohde, Christian Backs (Juri Schlünz 62), Bernd Wunderlich, Ralf Minge (Frank Pastor 54), Hans Richter     
Finland: Markku Palmroos, Pauno Kymäläinen, Ilkka Remes, Jari Europäus, Erkka Petäjä (Arto Uimonen 43), Pasi Rasimus, Jari Rantanen, Kari Ukkonen, Mika Lipponen, Juha Annunen (Kimmo Lipponen 70), Ari Hjelm  
Rostock. Ostseestadion. ARB.: Poucek, Faucek, Matusik (Czechoslovakia). 5000 spectators. Yellow cards: Dirk Stahmann, Juri Schlünz, Arto Uimonen. Red card: Pasi Rasimus 57 
 
05/10/83 Denmark 0-1 Poland
Goal: Kazimierz Buda 22'
Denmark: Troels Rasmussen, Michael Christensen, Ole Østergaard, Ejnar Rahbek, Kent Nielsen, John Sivebaek, John Helt, Pierre Larsen (Lars Lunde 46), Brian Chrøis, Flemming Christensen, Kim Vilfort (Keld Bordinggaard 71)  
Poland: Jacek Kazimierski, Marek Chojnacki, Adam Walczak, Jerzy Wijas, Marek Ostrowski, Miroslaw Pękala (J Bak 75), Jan Karas (Krzysztof Gawara 87), Kazimierz Buda, Andrzej Zgutczyński, Jan Furtok, Marek Lesniak       
Århus. ARB.: Hope (Scotland). 1000 spectators.
 
26/10/83 Norway 4-2 Finland
Goals: Erik Soler 3', Stein Kollshaugen 5' pen, 40' pen, Henning Bjarnøy 63' / Sixten Boström 15', Juha Annunen 83' 
Norway: Erik Thorstvedt, Svein Fjaelberg, Terje Kojedal, Per Henriksen, Erik Soler, Per Egil Ahlsen, Øyvind Tomteberget, Stein Kollshaugen, Henning Bjarnøy, Tom Sundby, Vidar Hansen       
Finland: Markku Palmroos, Ilkka Remes, Pauno Kymäläinen, Jari Europaeus, Erkka Petäjä, Arto Uimonen, Jari Rantanen, Juha Annunen, Sixten Boström (Kimmo Lipponen 67), Mika Lipponen (Risto Puustinen 75), Ari Hjelm        
Moss. ARB.: W.Eschweiler (West Germany). 2500 spectators.
 
29/10/83 Norway 1-1 East Germany
Goals: Erik Soler 67' / Hans-Uwe Pilz 57'
Norway: Erik Thorstvedt, Terje Kojedal, Svein Fjaelberg, Per Henriksen, Per Egil Ahlsen, Erik Soler, Øyvind Tomteberget, Stein Kollshaugen, Henning Bjarnøy, Tom Sundby (Jan Berg 84), Vidar Hansen (Ingvar Dalhaug 84)       
East Germany: Rene Müller, Lothar Hause, Carsten Sänger, Andreas Trautmann, Uwe Zötzsche, Hans Uwe Pilz, Jürgen Raab, Christian Backs, Axel Schulz (Mario Neuhäuser 74), Ralf Minge, Hans Richter   
Stavanger. Städtischen Stadion. ARB.: E.Fredriksson, Helin, Sahlin (Sweden). 1100 spectators.
 
09/11/83 Poland 1-0 Norway
Goal: Andrzej Zgutczyński 70'
Poland: Jacek Kazimierski, Paweł Król, Marek Chojnacki, Kazimierz Sokolowski, Marek Ostrowski, Miroslaw Pękala, Adam Kensy, Kazimierz Buda, Henryk Miłoszewicz (Kruszczynski 61), Andrzej Zgutczyński, Jan Furtok (Marek Lesniak 46)   
Norway: Erik Thorstvedt, Per Henriksen, Svein Fjaelberg, Terje Kojedal, Per Egil Ahlsen, Erik Soler, Tom Sundby, Olav Nysaeter (Jan Berg 62), Stein Kollshaugen, Henning Bjarnøy, Vidar Hansen      
Poznan. ARB.: H.Bummeier (Austria). 8000 spectators.
 
12/11/83 East Germany 1-0 Norway
Goal: Jürgen Raab 31'
East Germany: Rene Müller, Dirk Stahmann, Ronald Kreer, Andreas Trautmann, Uwe Zötzsche, Hans Uwe Pilz, Lutz Moldt (Bernd Wunderlich 55), Jürgen Raab, Christian Backs, Ralf Minge (Frank Pastor 74), Hans Richter   
Norway: Per Egil Nygård, Terje Kojedal, Per Egil Ahlsen, Per Henriksen, Tor Brevik, Henning Bjarnøy (Jan Berg 36), Tom Sundby, Stein Kollshaugen, Erik Soler, Olav Nysaether, Vidar Hansen (Geir Johansen 81)     
Babelsberg. Karl-Liebknecht-Stadion. ARB.: V.Miminoshvili, A.Milchenko, Sergiyenko (USSR). 8500 spectators.
 
04/04/84 Szczecin. Stadium Pogon. Poland 2-1 East Germany
Goals: Miroslaw Pękala 38', Henryk Miłoszewicz 80' / Adam Kensy 53' own goal
Poland: Jacek Kazimierski, Krzysztof Budka, Marek Chojnacki, Jozef Teodor Adamiec, Marek Ostrowski, Miroslaw Pękala (Janusz Turowski 66), Adam Kensy (Dariusz Wdowczyk 59), Jerzy Wijas, Henryk Miłoszewicz, Marek Lesniak, Jan Furtok        
East Germany: Rene Müller, Dirk Stahmann, Ronald Kreer, Norbert Trieloff, Uwe Zötzsche, Hans Uwe Pilz, Jürgen Raab, Christian Backs, Matthias Döschner, Hans Richter, Ralf Minge  
ARB.: Carpenter, Daly, Wallace (Ireland). 30000spectators. Yellow cards: Marek Ostrowski, Krzysztof Budka, Ronald Kreer. Red card: Hans Richter 87
 
18/04/84 East Germany 4-0 Denmark
Goals: Uwe Zötzsche 20' pen, Christian Backs 32', Harald Mothes 67', Dirk Stahmann 77' 
East Germany: Rene Müller, Dirk Stahmann, Carsten Sänger, Norbert Trieloff, Uwe Zötzsche, Hans Uwe Pilz, Jürgen Raab, Christian Backs (Axel Schulz 85), Dieter Kühn (Frank Pastor 63), Harald Mothes, Matthias Döschner
Denmark: Troels Rasmussen, Allan Nielsen II, John Sivebaek, Ejnar Rahbek, John Larsen, Pierre Larsen, Steen Hansen (Torben Christensen 62), John Helt, Brian Chrøis, Mogens Hansen, Kim Vilfort        
Magdeburg. ARB.: Richardson (England). 12500 spectators.
 
22/04/84 Poland 0-0 Denmark
Poland: Jacek Kazimierski, Marek Chojnacki, Krzysztof Budka, Jozef Teodor Adamiec, Dariusz Wdowczyk, Adam Kensy (Miroslaw Pękala 65), Jerzy Wijas, Kazimierz Buda, Henryk Miłoszewicz, Marek Lesniak, Krzysztof Jacek Baran (Janusz Turowski 46)
Denmark: Troels Rasmussen, Allan Nielsen II, John Sivebaek (Brian Chrøis 60), Ejnar Rahbek, John Larsen, Ole Rasmussen II, Pierre Larsen, John Helt, Mogens Hansen, Torben Christensen (Frank Løndahl 70), Kim Vilfort   
Lublin. Stadium Motor. ARB.: Mircea L.Salomir (Romania). 12000 spectators.
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13 Jan 2018, 17:12 #2

I have almost all the information on the composition of teams in qualifying matches in Europe (OG 1984). I do not have only information about the Greek replacements in the match Greece-Bulgaria.
Help me please.
If anyone has this information, then I very much ask you to provide it.

25/04/84 Alexandroupolis Greece 1-3 Bulgaria  
Goals: [Vangelis Vlahos 30' or 36 / Rusi Gochev 42', Mihail Valchev 68', Lachezar Tanev 80']

Greece: 
Σκούνας - Dimitrios Skounas, 
Λύσανδρος Γεωργαμλής - Lysandros Georgamlis, 
Πολ Χατζόπουλος - Pol Chatzopoulos, 
Γιώργος Μητσιμπόνας - Georgios Mitsibonas, 
Κώστας Ταράσης - Kostas Tarasis, 
Άγγελος Αναστασιάδης - Angelos Anastasiadis, 
Χάρης Μπανιώτης - Haris Baniotis, 
Δημήτρης Σαραβάκος - Dimitris Saravakos, 
Κώστας Μπατσινίλας - Kostas Batsinilas, 
Ανδρέας Μπονόβας - Andreas Bonovas, 
Γιώργος Ζελελίδης - Giorgos Zelelidis, 
Μιχάλης Ζιώγας - Michalis Ziogas, 
Βαγγέλης Βλάχος - Vangelis Vlachos

Bulgaria: Borislav Mihailov, Petar Houbchev, Krasimir Koev, Petar Petrov, Nikolay Iliev, Dimitar Mladenov, Rusi Gochev (Lachezar Tanev 60), Ayan Sadakov, Kostadin Yanchev, Zhivko Gospodinov, Ivaylo Kirov (Mihail Valchev 54)
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17 Jan 2018, 19:11 #3

Antikov wrote:I have almost all the information on the composition of teams in qualifying matches in Europe (OG 1984). I do not have only information about the Greek replacements in the match Greece-Bulgaria.
25/04/84 Alexandroupolis Greece 1-3 Bulgaria  
Goals: [Vangelis Vlahos 30' or 36 / Rusi Gochev 42', Mihail Valchev 68', Lachezar Tanev 80']

Greece: 
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Γιώργος Ζελελίδης - Giorgos Zelelidis,
Greece: Skoúnas, Yorghamlís, Tarásis, Mitsimbónas, Khatzópoulos (Baniótis 46'), Bonóvas, Saravákos, Zióghas, Batsinílas, Vlákhos (Thódoros Zelelídhis 79'), Anastasiádhis.

Greek goal at 36' according to my source, which also reported the 2nd and 3rd Bulgarian goals as Tanev 68', Valchev 82'.   Maybe needs another source to compare.
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17 Jan 2018, 20:06 #4

Thank you very much!
I now have all the information about the line-up and substitutions of the European teams in the OG 1984. I really want to give it all here, but now I have a lot of work, so I will do it when I have time for football statistics.
Now about the authors of the goals of the Bulgarians in the match against the Greeks. I posted here information taken from www.rsssf.com and https: //www.11v11.com. But, after your report of another sequence of the last two goals of the Bulgarians, I discovered the Soviet source of "Football-Hockey" for 1984 year. Of course, "Football-Hockey" for 1984 year had mistakes, but it is obvious that Danev 68 and Baldev 82 are in fact Tanev 68 and Valchev 82. 
If do not find the information in the Bulgarian newspapers, there will still be doubts about the last two goals of the Bulgarians.
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17 Jan 2018, 20:41 #5

Antikov wrote:Now about the authors of the goals of the Bulgarians in the match against the Greeks. I posted here information taken from www.rsssf.com and https: //www.11v11.com.
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If do not find the information in the Bulgarian newspapers, there will still be doubts about the last two goals of the Bulgarians.
My information is from the Greek newspaper "I Kathimerini"
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18 Jan 2018, 12:56 #6

Just a minor note about the eligibility code.

On August 5, 1983 FIFA released the Circular no. 319, in which they declared: “In order to avoid any misunderstandings and to answer different questions, we would like to record once again the valid provisions for participation in the 1984 Olympic Football Tournament. In principle, it should be pointed out that the term Amateur no longer figures in Olympic terminology”. And: “According to a decision taken by the FIFA Congress in Buenos Aires in 1978, the players from Europe and South America who have participated in the Preliminary and/or Final Competition of the FIFA World Cup are also excluded”.
During the first rounds of the 1984 Olympic qualifiers, however, the negotiations about the eligibility criteria (amateurs or professional?) were still ongoing, and that caused some confusion in certain countries, especially in the CONCACAF zone. Some teams took advantage of the uncertainly to field professionals, and other teams "played safe" by staying with amateurs. For example, the United States were preparing an entirely amateur team (mostly college players) almost up to the finals in Los Angeles, but then abandoned that team and replaced them with their professionals.
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