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14 Jan 2017, 00:39 #51

It is a real landmark that NFL is borrowing a soccer stadium, rather than the other way around.
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14 Jan 2017, 12:37 #52

Yep, It's bizzare that they didn't try one of the many larger stadiums in the Los Angeles Area, apparently the practice is a bit dated now but baseball stadiums have doubled up for NFL before. Or maybe they did try those bigger places and got rejected, which would say a lot about how well-planned this move is from a member of supposedly the most profit-driven group in the sporting world.
If NFL stadiums were European (doesn't even need that part though really), UEFA would put almost all of them near the top of the list for potential Champions League final venues. LA Galaxy's ground on the other hand they'd barely consider for the Europa League final...
Huge win for soccer over there by proxy though, won't stop the American traditionalists from belittling the game and continuing to cheer only for 'real football', but it's a long-overdue slice of humble pie for the league to be appearing as rent-paying guests at such a 'tiny' stadium belonging to a team from an 'inferior sport'...
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27 Jan 2017, 20:14 #53

Coming soon live from Houston: Super Bowl LI (or 51 if you don't like their use of fauxman numerals) - Patriots v Falcons. Still no Wurzels to perform halftime, it's going to be Lady Gaga. Recent Trumptastic events and her knack of performing attention-seeking stunts combined with being a known activist is a recipe for some kind of huge headline-making incident occuring... that or the NFL and many sponsors will nix it in advance.
Interesting to see at this time of year just what it takes to put on the most ridiculously bloated single-game extravaganza on the planet, the results, predictably, are a ridiculously bloated list of requirements. FIFA have their hosting rules but I don't think they've gone as far as requesting that their executives have on-demand private use of the city's finest bowling and golf facilities...
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06 Feb 2017, 18:33 #54

So... look at that scoreboard and try and think of a bigger collapse in a big game in any sport.
But as much as he is given stick for being the poster boy of the most unlikeable team, credit to Tom Brady for eventually showing why he's now won 5 Super Bowls, and at almost age 40. Although the league should probably investigate him for his use of performance-enhancing pyjamas:
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07 Feb 2017, 00:35 #55

Stupid Americans. Don't they know how to waste time by holding the ball near the corner flag and rolling around pretending to be injured? Or making unnecessary substitutions of the player who is, serendipitously, diagonally furthest from the dugout.
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07 Feb 2017, 13:36 #56

I like how "auto-complete" has produced a spin-off of people posting photos of "superb owls" on Twitter.
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07 Feb 2017, 21:24 #57

TheRoonBa wrote:
I like how "auto-complete" has produced a spin-off of people posting photos of "superb owls" on Twitter.
The backstory to 'Superb Owl' basically comes from the NFL being hyper-protective of their brand.
Hyper-protective to the point where they threatened to sue a church for a sign that was holding a 'Super Bowl viewing party', and to the point of attempting to copyright terms such as 'the big game', a TV comedian parodied the fact his channel wasn't 'allowed' to use the proper title and instead always referred to it as though he was describing a brilliant nocturnal bird.
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01 Apr 2017, 09:33 #58

So after that Rams/Chargers relocation situation where the new city held firm and refused to be held to ransom, the next relocation is back on the familiar path of extorting public funds.
In a few years the Oakland Raiders will become the Las Vegas Raiders, and will play in a brand-new $1.7b, 65,000-seater stadium, with $750m of it coming out of the city's funds, although apparently this will be raised through an increase in hotel tax, so I guess they at least have the sense to bill their target audience...
Looking at the stadium it looks like it could be a shoo-in for any 2026 World Cup bid the USA puts up... but this is America we're talking about, 65,000 seats just about puts it in the top 60, although I guess recency bias and new facilities would make their case.
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15 Aug 2017, 10:01 #59

nfm24 wrote: It is a real landmark that NFL is borrowing a soccer stadium, rather than the other way around.
New landmark: the LA Chargers played their first game at the stadium and got a lower attendance than LA Galaxy's most recent effort. Granted the NFL is still in pre-season, but to not be able to fill a stadium that size in a league so huge in America is hilariously bad.

Although prices starting from $75 for said pre-season game may have something to do with it... almost "Miami Clasico" levels of bad. Impressive transformation speed though...
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24 Sep 2017, 20:01 #60

Donald Trump v American sports stars: it's going down (then up again as soon as a different national anthem plays).

His last attempt to take on the NFL didn't go so well, but if nothing else he seems to have a decent vegetable-based grasp on the sport:

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30 Oct 2017, 19:49 #61

Went to my first-ever NFL game this weekend: Minnesota Vikings v Cleveland Browns at Twickenham.

The main takeaway is that I got the fully authentic experience of being legally mugged by the NFL, for starters being told my bag (which I've had no problems with at other stadiums) isn't small/transparent/officially branded enough for their liking, meaning I had to go back to some nearby college where they were holding an official locker service for £10 each. Then once I was past the first checkpoint massive queues so I only had time to do one of their free activities before the game started, then food-wise being charged £8.50 for a thing of pulled pork, £5.50 for a Budweiser and £1.20 for a Twix.

They did give you a free Browns flag and a plastic bag at your seat though, only noticed when the national anthems were being played that the plastic bags were being used to create a fan tifo of the American flag... clever but this event was being played in London. The stadium announcer sounded like one of those ring announcers in boxing ("THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRD DOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN!").

Also at some breaks in play they had the 'NFL Party Patrol' come out with t-shirt cannons and stuff, I'm no expert but I thought 'party patrol' was a term used on the people who come and shut down a party, Urban Dictionary makes it sound even worse.

The game itself was really competitive in the first half, then in the 3rd quarter onwards I realised why clips like the ones below make so much sense:





And then a nightmare getting back including a replacement bus service. Other than all that though it was quite good.
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31 Oct 2017, 19:24 #62

This is terrible.
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14 Nov 2017, 18:32 #63

Also terrible is the new contract demands from league commissioner Roger Goodell.

I don't know anywhere near enough about their internal dealings to know if he's actually proportionately worth it or whatever, but wanting $50m/year plus 'lifetime use of a private jet' put down in writing seems to be a bit much for a job they could probably just stick any old suit into... and it says several things about America is that 'lifetime family health insurance' is up there as the other incredible condition in the article.
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14 Nov 2017, 20:46 #64

Yeah!  He can use his private jet to fly his kids to a country with a health service.
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01 Jan 2018, 12:41 #65

mattsanger92 wrote:The game itself was really competitive in the first half, then in the 3rd quarter onwards I realised why clips like the ones below make so much sense:



Cleveland Browns: 0-16.

Truly a remarkable achievement, and after closer inspection you wonder just how seriously pre-season is taken in that sport...
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01 Jan 2018, 14:43 #66

I hope everyone learns the important lessons from this.
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12 Jan 2018, 20:34 #67

So apparently I went to the last Twickenham game of the NFL (for now at least), from next season their contract gets taken up by New White Hart Lane...
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12 Jan 2018, 22:15 #68

Is the new stadium likely to yield more revenue than Twickenham ?
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13 Jan 2018, 12:04 #69

Looks like a lot of the new stadium's geared that way, especially if the NFL team they invite is the Green Bay Packers...
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15 Jan 2018, 21:36 #70

The Minnesota Vikings trying to be the first-ever team to play a Super Bowl in their own stadium, stayed in contention with a Hollywood ending to get into the semi-final. Then they go and celebrate by ripping off Iceland Motherwell:

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15 Jan 2018, 21:59 #71

Surely, being Vikings, they are all ineligible to play for Minnesota and must instead represent Yorkshire.
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16 Jan 2018, 18:52 #72

nfm24 wrote:Surely, being Vikings, they are all ineligible to play for Minnesota and must instead represent Yorkshire.
It depends, if we group Minnesota as part of a wider "North-Central USA", then they could still get in on the 🍎-based eligibility test.
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16 Jan 2018, 20:48 #73

I would probably watch more American football if all the players had to wear the mascot costumes.
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17 Jan 2018, 19:15 #74

And you thought you were joking:



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26 Jan 2018, 19:54 #75

This week soap opera professional wrestling billionaire Vince McMahon has announced the launch of the XFL, a rival league to the NFL. Likely to be the first thing even closely resembling a challenge since 2001, when the XFL had it's first go and lasted all of 3 months. When it made such a strong start as well:



Although apparently the league's not going to have as much 'X' in it as before, which makes you wonder what the point is in keeping a name that was close to its sell-by date the first time around...

NFL, XFL, prefer the Sir Purr Bowl to be honest...
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26 Jan 2018, 21:42 #76

Wasn't there a version where the teams were all made up of cheerleaders?  I seem to remember seeing that on the old Transworld Sport (about 20 years ago).
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27 Jan 2018, 13:17 #77

nfm24 wrote:Wasn't there a version where the teams were all made up of cheerleaders?  I seem to remember seeing that on the old Transworld Sport (about 20 years ago).
Think there was something called the Lingerie Bowl. You'd be forgiven for thinking it was a niche sideshow that lasted a few years before fading away, but they went and expanded it into a proper league, only in 'Murica (also apparently Canada and 'Stralia).

Sepp Blatter's 'tighter shorts' suggestion x100:

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27 Jan 2018, 14:51 #78

"Steam" and "Mist" - tells us all we need to know about the substance of that.
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27 Jan 2018, 16:50 #79

nfm24 wrote:"Steam" and "Mist" - tells us all we need to know about the substance of that.
Also up there are "Denver Dream" and "Los Angeles Temptation", and some of the defunct franchise names are another level ("Dallas Desire", "San Diego Seduction", and "Las Vegas Sin"). To be fair they have the odd name that wouldn't look out of place elsewhere ("Nashville Knights"), but it's pretty blatant what the main motivation of the league is even with their rebranding.

The XFL probably missed a trick with their first go though, they tried to sell themselves as 'gladitorial' (amongst other things) but if you're going to take that stance should probably just go all in, full Blitz The League levels:

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05 Feb 2018, 16:12 #80

A superb owl last night, well done to the Philadelphia Eagles (and their British player Jay Ajayi) for their first-ever time taking the trophy, brilliant game (though someone with more knowledge of the sport would probably tell me it was a defensive shambles or something).

But the Eagles should still be put under investigation for use of DNA splicing (and if not that then at least getting very confused about their team's name)...
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05 Feb 2018, 16:32 #81

I watched the second half (sorry, 3rd & 4th quarters).  It seemed that the commentators were not so much describing what was happening, but just saying what should happen next, and then quoting various statistics.  Dunno if that is common in that sport.  But definitely a common theme in sports coverage at the moment is a star-driven narrative where the "story" is decided in advance and then the coverage of the real events are contorted to fit it, e.g.
BRADY DOES IT AGAIN (btw Patriots won)
BRADY BOTTLES IT (btw Eagles won)

The more interesting story in my view was that the Eagles had a backup quarterback who had to come in off the bench and win the superbowl, and that he might end up being backup again next year.  Or that it was actually the kicker who arguably won the game.

The NFL really needs to review the trophy presentation ceremony, that was dire. Also the BBC host seemed to have ants in his pants for some reason, which was quite distracting.
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05 Feb 2018, 17:38 #82

Bring back Richard Ayoade
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06 Feb 2018, 19:50 #83

nfm24 wrote:I watched the second half (sorry, 3rd & 4th quarters).
I just want to know what life/sleep schedule you're on where you decide to tune into the Super Bowl halfway through (around 2 in the morning). Unless you were waiting all night but just didn't want to chance seeing Justin Timberlake...

nfm24 wrote:It seemed that the commentators were not so much describing what was happening, but just saying what should happen next, and then quoting various statistics.  Dunno if that is common in that sport.
I did love the Eagles trick play, moments like that where a team/player puts one in the eye for convention and percieved wisdom (especially that of TV commentators) is a win for me. The fact it of course could have backfired horribly just adds to it all. And bonus points for the Patriots trying and failing the same thing earlier in the game, amazed they didn't see it coming when they were copied because even I could tell the moment the QB went off to the side.


nfm24 wrote:The NFL really needs to review the trophy presentation ceremony, that was dire.
Presume you're talking about the whole mundane 'interview process' and passing the trophy off to a handful of various key figures, but I still can't get over the notion that the team owner gets to lift it first. What is it with Americans and their worship of the besuited rich guy?
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07 Feb 2018, 00:02 #84

mattsanger92 wrote:
nfm24 wrote:I watched the second half (sorry, 3rd & 4th quarters).
I just want to know what life/sleep schedule you're on where you decide to tune into the Super Bowl halfway through (around 2 in the morning). Unless you were waiting all night but just didn't want to chance seeing Justin Timberlake...
I knew that if I watched the first half, I would definitely decide to go to bed at half-time, if not earlier.

Presume you're talking about the whole mundane 'interview process' and passing the trophy off to a handful of various key figures, but I still can't get over the notion that the team owner gets to lift it first. What is it with Americans and their worship of the besuited rich guy?
It was just a slow and tedious precession.  My main query was not that the owner got it first (predictable) but the dull interviews, and the general petering out. There was no sort of clearly-defined "lift" of the trophy.  It was all a bit of an anti-climax.
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