Afghanistan

Joined: December 31st, 1969, 7:00 pm

November 17th, 2006, 9:05 pm #1

I found a few articles on Afghan football, I will get into my archives and search them for you. What I know is that they have an active national side playing regularly, and most players are living in Kabul.
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Joined: November 5th, 2006, 4:16 pm

November 21st, 2006, 7:51 pm #2

I will search in my archives and email you what I find!
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Joined: November 3rd, 2006, 11:49 am

February 17th, 2008, 7:05 am #3

1949: Afghanistan-India 0-8 (I think I got this results from an Indian book... ) I am trying to compare my lists with yours and I begin with A...
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Joined: November 14th, 2006, 10:20 pm

November 27th, 2008, 3:26 am #4

1998 news
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/80849.stm
matches results in Saudi Arabia?
(with clubs?)
they played abroad in 1995
& they were in 2000 Asian Cup qualifiers, but withdrew
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Joined: August 26th, 2007, 11:52 am

November 27th, 2008, 10:28 am #5

Well there are also teams from the autonomous tribal areas in Pakistan with lots of Taliban who play in local competitions.
And then there was the Pakistani club team which played in Taliban Afghanistan and were chased by the Mullahs in the ground and had their heads shaven and sent back across the border, for wearring shorts!
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Joined: November 3rd, 2006, 11:49 am

January 23rd, 2010, 12:35 pm #6

In 1941 Afghanistan became independent; a football tournament was organised:
Aghanistan-Iran 0-0
Iran-India (British) 1-0
I suppose India and Afghanistan played each other in a third game.
does anyone has the result ?
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Joined: November 3rd, 2006, 11:49 am

January 23rd, 2010, 12:42 pm #7

Found ther result
Afghanistan-India 1-3
sorry but Afghanistan became independent in 1919...
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Joined: October 31st, 2006, 5:16 pm

February 27th, 2015, 2:37 pm #8

Afghanistan will leave SAFF and play in the new Central Asian Championship in 2015 (Iran, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan will be the other teams).

http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2696/ ... st-time-in

Not clear, but it says Afghanistan will play in the 2015 SAFF Championship as well (which will be their last appearance).

Not sure what this will mean for their women's team - Central Asia has never held a tournament for women's national teams, and 2 of the members (Tajikistan and Turkmenistan) have yet to play a full international match. Afghanistan women played reasonably regularly within South Asia.

For futsal and beach soccer, this will be a good move for Afghanistan, as there is virtually no futsal or beach soccer within SAFF, while Iran and Uzbekistan are pretty active in futsal and beach soccer, and all the other teams are at a good level in futsal.
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February 27th, 2015, 3:53 pm #9

on the AFC website they already switched to Central Asia

when will this tournament be played?
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February 27th, 2015, 7:21 pm #10

Not sure - the article seems to say they will play both the SAFF and the CAFF championship in 2015. But if they have already left the SAFF, I am not sure how they can play in the SAFF Championship. nHowever, the Afghanistan FA president confirmed they would indeed play in the 2015 SAFF Championship, which will probably be held in the second half of 2015 (in India)

The CAFF championship is not really useful for Iran and Uzbekistan, and they might send B teams. But for Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Afghanistan, it will be good to have regular competition.
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March 3rd, 2015, 1:49 pm #11

I read that the CAFF competition will take place from 2016.

http://www.goalnepal.com/news.php?id=23372
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Joined: October 31st, 2006, 5:16 pm

March 4th, 2015, 1:27 pm #12

I'm almost tempted to move the Afghanistan posts into the Central Asian Forum, but I think it might break something.
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March 4th, 2015, 7:03 pm #13

pieter wrote:
In 1941 Afghanistan became independent; a football tournament was organised:Aghanistan-Iran 0-0Iran-India (British) 1-0I suppose India and Afghanistan played each other in a third game.does anyone has the result ?

Not sure if this was Iran 's National Team. I'm sure I've read somewhere it was a Mashhad select or something similar.
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March 7th, 2015, 12:42 pm #14

South Asian Games not affected? they can still take part in ?
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Joined: April 7th, 2007, 12:28 pm

March 7th, 2015, 1:33 pm #15

I think entries to the South Asian Games (previously SAFG) are for members of a South Asian Olympic comittee (or something), which includes members separately from any decisions of SAFF...

But, if the SAFG football tournament is organized by SAFF, maybe only SAFF members. So anything is possible.
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March 7th, 2015, 4:37 pm #16

But South Asian Games is for Under-23 (at least for men), so is not quite so interesting anyway.
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March 7th, 2015, 5:00 pm #17

Well, for these permanently "developing" nations (i.e. anybody who isn't very good), youth level always seems to attract extra relevance somehow.
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May 18th, 2015, 7:53 pm #18

pieter wrote:
Found ther resultAfghanistan-India 1-3sorry but Afghanistan became independent in 1919...
Piet:   what is your source for this match result?
There are various Farsi historical articles online about this event. 
Example : http://archive.is/http://www.hamshahrim ... s/?Id=5536
That says that actually the real score of Afghanistan vs Iran was a 1-0 win for Afghanistan, with a last minute penalty goal which the Iranians disputed.  So perhaps the match was later recorded as 0-0 either for diplomatic reasons, or maybe as a sort of stubborn denial (?)  or just wrong info... 
If Afghanistan did beat Iran 1-0, then who won the tournament?
I have not found anything mentioned about the Indian team in any of the Indian newspapers I have checked.   In any case, it was clearly not a national team.
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May 21st, 2015, 6:06 pm #19

Here is a video apparently dated 1951, though the scores mentioned agree better with what I found for 1949:

Hockey game starts at 4:58 (Afghan Military XI 0-3 All-India)
Football game at 6:03 : Aryans Club 1-1 AIFF XI
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Joined: February 16th, 2011, 3:43 am

May 22nd, 2015, 5:50 am #20

Sorry, let me say what I understood.
Pieter found Afghanistan - Iran  0-0, while Neil's Sources say 1-0. Year was 1941.No dates are today available for that Tournament?
In addition, Neil found a 1951 video, where Aryans Club -  India (AIFF) XI  ended 1-1. But he says the year (according to other Source) was 1949.
No available dates also for that Match?
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May 22nd, 2015, 2:17 pm #21

Jashn usually is around the same time every year (approx 25 August).
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May 22nd, 2015, 3:58 pm #22

nfm24 wrote:
Jashn usually is around the same time every year (approx 25 August).
Interesting!
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May 22nd, 2015, 5:49 pm #23

Except when it was moved to commemorate a revolution (and in Afghanistan's sad history...)
E.g. http://www.rsssf.com/tablesj/jasson76.html
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May 22nd, 2015, 5:54 pm #24

BTW results between 1937 and 1984 involving Afghanistan are under investigation. I have done some preliminary work but not really organized it.  In most years there was some kind of football match(es) during the Jashn period. Usually the visiting team(s) came from India, Iran, Pakistan, Uzbekistan.   However, sources are very sparse.  Even if a match score was reported there were typically no details of it.

Elsewhere on the forum I posted the link to the Kabul Times online archive.
The 1941 tmt is here  although I am about to revise it (end of next week maybe).
I still don't know where Piet got the Afghan-India result. 
Last edited by nfm24 on May 22nd, 2015, 5:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Joined: November 3rd, 2006, 11:49 am

May 23rd, 2015, 3:47 am #25

I do not remember where I got the results, I will try to find the source...
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May 28th, 2015, 2:01 pm #26

Just to say that the 1941 page has been updated: http://www.rsssf.com/tablesk/kabul-indep41.html
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May 29th, 2015, 5:02 pm #27

nfm24 wrote:
I still don't know where Piet got the Afghan-India result. 
Probably from http://www.eloratings.net/India.htmAnd because (according to your file) :on 23 August  Iran - (British) India  was playedandon 24 August   Afghanistan - Iran was played,I would say thatAfghanistan - (British) Iran 1-3 could have been played on 25 August 1941. 
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May 30th, 2015, 9:57 am #28

I have not seen any evidence of the 1-3 match at all, except that Piet wrote it. Obviously I don't doubt Piet for no reason, just that the sources I could access didn't report any such game at all.
I am still skeptical of the other info on this event anyway. You can see in the new version that the score is disputed, and also the squad of Iran players is disputed, even amongst Persian sources themselves.
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June 8th, 2015, 4:27 pm #29

Having consulted another newspaper (from what is now Pakistan), another revision of the 1941 tournament is on its way to RSSSF.
The results:23-Aug-1941                     Iran 1-0 India XI
24-Aug-1941              Afghanistan 1-0 Iran                   [or 0-0] *
24-Aug-1941 Istiqlal College (Kabul) 1-0 Union Club (Peshawar)  **
  -Aug-1941              Afghanistan 1-3 India XI               ***

  * This match was also reported as a 0-0 draw.  Some Iranian sources suggest 
    that Afghanistan scored a penalty in the last minute, which was protested by Iran.
    It may be that the match was declared a draw in the interests of diplomacy. ** Home team also reported as Harbia Club (Kabul).  
*** Mentioned by only one source (a retrospective).
The two scores on 24th August were mentioned in the "Lahore Civil and Military Gazette" in two reports.The second report gave a summary of all sports in the festival, listing only those two matches for football.The Iran 1-0 India XI match seems to be mentioned only in Iranian sources.The only source found which mentioned the Afghanistan 1-3 India XI match was this:  Afghanistan national football team (by Karim Popal), but as it is a retrospective, the year could be wrong. Oh well.
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Joined: November 3rd, 2006, 11:49 am

June 9th, 2015, 10:49 am #30

thanks and glad you found at leats a source for that result...
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