The Top 20 figures in Cryonics--All Time.

The Top 20 figures in Cryonics--All Time.

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April 21st, 2004, 9:07 pm #1

Ok, this is a spinoff of one of Rick’s posts, where he talked about the top people in cryonics for 2003.

I liken my question to being asked to name the leading figures in the American experiment--Around say, the year 1810. We are still (we hope) only in the budding stages of a great experiment. One which carries no guarantee that it will last. If it fails, most of us on this forum will be unknown footnotes to a forgotten era in history. If it works, then this is like living in an era when the “Founding Fathers” are mostly still alive.

Who are they? Who would you put on the list?

I was going to set the list at a dozen, but I wanted room for anyone to add some quirky personal favorites. For instance, it stretches reality a bit, but I want to put Benjamin Franklin on my list. But I’m getting ahead of myself. First and foremost, I think Robert Ettinger deserves to be at the head of any such list. That one is easy. I would probably put Drexler on it too, and Ralph Merkle. Who else? Alcor should be represented, either by scientists or visionary leaders they have had (if that is not an oxymoron) Who would that be....The Chamberlains? I would guess they belong, but I really don’t know much of the details of Alcor’s history. Maybe there was somebody before them, or perhaps a scientist behind the scenes deserves more credit. I also think infamy puts you on the list. So Bob Nelson is on list too. I know of a lot of psuedo “big names”, but don’t know which of them belong....

Steve Bridge, Jerry Lemmler, Charles Platt, Mike Darwin, Steve Harris.....

Who would you name as the prominent figures in cryonics history?
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April 21st, 2004, 9:21 pm #2

I forgot that author's name, but that guy influenced Ettinger. And the guy that Mike Perry is finishing a book for posthumously-- who came with the cryonics idea at the same time Ettinger did and who coined the phrase freeze, wait, reanimate. I agree with inclusin of Franklin. There was another sci fi writer in the 1930's-- who included suspended animation ideas in the Buck Rogers comic books. I'd include him and Buck Rogers himself as well as Iron Man who was suspended in 1993 in that comic book. I'm just brainstorming here for a minute and obviously won't include fictional comic book characters in my final list. In terms of having influence, however, those characters and their authors are worth something I think. Kubrick for 2001: Space Odyssey for the suspended animation tanks. Brian Wowk for definining death and insisting on the term "preservation" over "suspension". Saul Kent for financing a study that led to Fa*y Wowk's study in Cryobiology April 2004. Dozens of others but I guess we'll have to construct a list more methodically with some definition of what constitutes a significant contribution. Maybe if we do the review year by year, we can do this more methodically. Walt Disney, for example, must be included for having been the center of the rumor of a preservation-- the most famous and well liked personality of all time to be connected with cryonics. I think we can still do something with that. Maybe approach Disney studios or something, after the trouble with Eisner is finished, and make a movie like Tron only with cryonics as the theme.
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Texas Cryo
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April 21st, 2004, 11:26 pm #3

1. Robert Ettinger
2. Jerry Leaf
3. Mike Darwin
4. Drexler
5. Ralph Merkle.
6. F*hy
7. Brian Wowk
8. Steve Harris
9. Steve Bridge
10. The Chamberlains
11. Carlos Mondragon
12. Michael Riskin
13. Dave Pizer
14. Charles Platt
15. Paul Segall
16. Lovecraft
17. Larry Johnson
18. John Henry Williams
19. Ted Williams
20. Jerry Lemler
21. Evan Cooper (Mike Perry writing book for posthumously)
22. guy who influenced Ettinger?
23. another sci fi writer in the 1930's who wrote Buck Rogers?
24. Bob Nelson
25. Tanya Jones
26. Joe Waynick
27. Ralph Whelan

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Texas Cryo
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April 21st, 2004, 11:27 pm #4

1. Robert Ettinger
2. Jerry Leaf
3. Mike Darwin
4. Drexler
5. Ralph Merkle.
6. F*hy
7. Brian Wowk
8. Steve Harris
9. Steve Bridge
10. The Chamberlains
11. Carlos Mondragon
12. Michael Riskin
13. Dave Pizer
14. Charles Platt
15. Paul Segall
16. Lovecraft
17. Larry Johnson
18. John Henry Williams
19. Ted Williams
20. Jerry Lemler
21. Evan Cooper (Mike Perry writing book for posthumously)
22. guy who influenced Ettinger?
23. another sci fi writer in the 1930's who wrote Buck Rogers?
24. Bob Nelson
25. Tanya Jones
26. Joe Waynick
27. Ralph Whelan
28. Kevin Brown
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Texas Cryo
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April 21st, 2004, 11:31 pm #5

1. Robert Ettinger
2. Jerry Leaf
3. Mike Darwin
4. Drexler
5. Ralph Merkle.
6. F*hy
7. Brian Wowk
8. Steve Harris
9. Steve Bridge
10. The Chamberlains
11. Carlos Mondragon
12. Michael Riskin
13. Dave Pizer
14. Charles Platt
15. Paul Segall
16. Lovecraft
17. Larry Johnson
18. John Henry Williams
19. Ted Williams
20. Jerry Lemler
21. Evan Cooper (Mike Perry writing book for posthumously)
22. guy who influenced Ettinger?
23. another sci fi writer in the 1930's who wrote Buck Rogers?
24. Bob Nelson
25. Tanya Jones
26. Joe Waynick
27. Ralph Whelan
28. Kevin Brown
29. Claudia Williams
30. Bobby Jo Ferrell
31. The Riverside County Government
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Texas Cryo
Texas Cryo

April 21st, 2004, 11:34 pm #6

1. Robert Ettinger
2. Saul Kent
3. Jerry Leaf
4. Mike Darwin
5. Drexler
6. Ralph Merkle.
7. F*hy
8. Brian Wowk
9. Steve Harris
10. Steve Bridge
11. The Chamberlains
12. Carlos Mondragon
13. Michael Riskin
14. Dave Pizer
15. Charles Platt
16. Paul Segall
17. Bill Falloon
18. Lovecraft
19. Larry Johnson
20. John Henry Williams
21. Ted Williams
22. Jerry Lemler
23. Evan Cooper (Mike Perry writing book for posthumously)
24. guy who influenced Ettinger?
25. another sci fi writer in the 1930's who wrote Buck Rogers?
26. Bob Nelson
27. Tanya Jones
28. Joe Waynick
29. Ralph Whelan
30. Kevin Brown
31. Claudia Williams
32. Bobby Jo Ferrell
33. The Riverside County Government
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April 22nd, 2004, 2:58 am #7

in mind--Thanks so much.

I will have to do some research when time permits....maybe cross-referencing some of those names on cryonet, CryoCare and other archived cryonics resources.

BTW, is that THE Lovecraft, as in H.P. ?
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April 22nd, 2004, 3:04 am #8

1. Robert Ettinger
2. Jerry Leaf
3. Mike Darwin
4. Drexler
5. Ralph Merkle.
6. F*hy
7. Brian Wowk
8. Steve Harris
9. Steve Bridge
10. The Chamberlains
11. Carlos Mondragon
12. Michael Riskin
13. Dave Pizer
14. Charles Platt
15. Paul Segall
16. Lovecraft
17. Larry Johnson
18. John Henry Williams
19. Ted Williams
20. Jerry Lemler
21. Evan Cooper (Mike Perry writing book for posthumously)
22. guy who influenced Ettinger?
23. another sci fi writer in the 1930's who wrote Buck Rogers?
24. Bob Nelson
25. Tanya Jones
26. Joe Waynick
27. Ralph Whelan
responding to your original message, because didn't I read something about not letting threads get too long horizontally or run off the page or something? Rick I need to review the rules somewhere...)

Each list has a "F*hy", slightly confusing me. I think a read mention of a Dr. Fahy in passing on very old cryonet stuff....is that the correct name and spelling? What is his full name?
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April 23rd, 2004, 1:59 am #9

Ok, this is a spinoff of one of Rick’s posts, where he talked about the top people in cryonics for 2003.

I liken my question to being asked to name the leading figures in the American experiment--Around say, the year 1810. We are still (we hope) only in the budding stages of a great experiment. One which carries no guarantee that it will last. If it fails, most of us on this forum will be unknown footnotes to a forgotten era in history. If it works, then this is like living in an era when the “Founding Fathers” are mostly still alive.

Who are they? Who would you put on the list?

I was going to set the list at a dozen, but I wanted room for anyone to add some quirky personal favorites. For instance, it stretches reality a bit, but I want to put Benjamin Franklin on my list. But I’m getting ahead of myself. First and foremost, I think Robert Ettinger deserves to be at the head of any such list. That one is easy. I would probably put Drexler on it too, and Ralph Merkle. Who else? Alcor should be represented, either by scientists or visionary leaders they have had (if that is not an oxymoron) Who would that be....The Chamberlains? I would guess they belong, but I really don’t know much of the details of Alcor’s history. Maybe there was somebody before them, or perhaps a scientist behind the scenes deserves more credit. I also think infamy puts you on the list. So Bob Nelson is on list too. I know of a lot of psuedo “big names”, but don’t know which of them belong....

Steve Bridge, Jerry Lemmler, Charles Platt, Mike Darwin, Steve Harris.....

Who would you name as the prominent figures in cryonics history?
I would have to include many of the names in Prehoda's Ch. 5 (Suspended Animation, 1968). Cryonics is a specialized area of cryobiology so people like Henry Power who froze eels in 1663 and revived them and Roger Boyles who experimented with frogs in 1683 have to be included. Audry Smith, Jean rostand, Harold Meryman etc. all are big in the history of cryobiology and can't be ignored in this list of the top 20 people of cryonics.
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April 23rd, 2004, 1:23 pm #10

Ok, this is a spinoff of one of Rick’s posts, where he talked about the top people in cryonics for 2003.

I liken my question to being asked to name the leading figures in the American experiment--Around say, the year 1810. We are still (we hope) only in the budding stages of a great experiment. One which carries no guarantee that it will last. If it fails, most of us on this forum will be unknown footnotes to a forgotten era in history. If it works, then this is like living in an era when the “Founding Fathers” are mostly still alive.

Who are they? Who would you put on the list?

I was going to set the list at a dozen, but I wanted room for anyone to add some quirky personal favorites. For instance, it stretches reality a bit, but I want to put Benjamin Franklin on my list. But I’m getting ahead of myself. First and foremost, I think Robert Ettinger deserves to be at the head of any such list. That one is easy. I would probably put Drexler on it too, and Ralph Merkle. Who else? Alcor should be represented, either by scientists or visionary leaders they have had (if that is not an oxymoron) Who would that be....The Chamberlains? I would guess they belong, but I really don’t know much of the details of Alcor’s history. Maybe there was somebody before them, or perhaps a scientist behind the scenes deserves more credit. I also think infamy puts you on the list. So Bob Nelson is on list too. I know of a lot of psuedo “big names”, but don’t know which of them belong....

Steve Bridge, Jerry Lemmler, Charles Platt, Mike Darwin, Steve Harris.....

Who would you name as the prominent figures in cryonics history?
Rick Potvin should be at number 1 of course!
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