And there goes Australia's record of stopping mass shootings.

And there goes Australia's record of stopping mass shootings.

Joined: February 18th, 2013, 7:32 pm

May 12th, 2018, 5:29 pm #1

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Folks have been saying that we need to pass laws taking away guns like Australia; that they don't have mass shootings.... Guess they can't say that anymore.

Shootings aren't a large issue in Australia, but honestly speaking, they're not a large issue here in the USA either. More teens are killed texting and driving than they are in shootings. More are killed drinking and driving. More teens die from SUICIDE than murder....

And yet, we politicize the shootings and never let them leave the public consciousness.

Last mass school shooting was the middle of February here, and yet we hear about "The Parkland Shooting" almost every day on the news -- which, IMHO, only encourages people to try and become the next school shooter. We say "five minutes of fame", and there's a shitload of folks who crave and would kill -- and even die -- for that brief moment of attention in the spotlight; yet, nobody seems to think that keeping the shooting permanently in the news has any negative impact...

Personally, I think a limit on media coverage would be more effective than a limit on gun sales. When one wants to shoot somebody else, there's ALWAYS illegal and/or unregistered private guns easily available to buy from individuals. No law is going to remove those illegal/unregistered firearms, so we need to remove the MOTIVATIONSfor the shootings instead -- and a limit on media coverage may be the proper place to start...

Though, of course, folks would then cry about the First Admendment, as if it was somehow more important and necessary to protect than the second....
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Joined: June 23rd, 2007, 4:01 pm

May 12th, 2018, 11:38 pm #2

Just try putting a bump-stock on a bow and arrow. It doesn't do a damn thing!

President Hillary says: "Effective immediately, all guns will be retrofitted with bullet detecting sensor safeties. The safety will only disengage if the sensor detects a bullet coming towards you. This will insure guns are only used in self defense. Hunters are all just a bunch of deplorables, anyhow. So they can just buy their jerky at the 7/11 like everybody else."

Oh that's right, she LOST!

Pete :D

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Joined: May 31st, 2004, 10:14 am

May 13th, 2018, 3:03 am #3

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ma ... ar-AAx9Iyj

Folks have been saying that we need to pass laws taking away guns like Australia; that they don't have mass shootings.... Guess they can't say that anymore.

Shootings aren't a large issue in Australia, but honestly speaking, they're not a large issue here in the USA either. More teens are killed texting and driving than they are in shootings. More are killed drinking and driving. More teens die from SUICIDE than murder....

And yet, we politicize the shootings and never let them leave the public consciousness.

Last mass school shooting was the middle of February here, and yet we hear about "The Parkland Shooting" almost every day on the news -- which, IMHO, only encourages people to try and become the next school shooter. We say "five minutes of fame", and there's a shitload of folks who crave and would kill -- and even die -- for that brief moment of attention in the spotlight; yet, nobody seems to think that keeping the shooting permanently in the news has any negative impact...

Personally, I think a limit on media coverage would be more effective than a limit on gun sales. When one wants to shoot somebody else, there's ALWAYS illegal and/or unregistered private guns easily available to buy from individuals. No law is going to remove those illegal/unregistered firearms, so we need to remove the MOTIVATIONSfor the shootings instead -- and a limit on media coverage may be the proper place to start...

Though, of course, folks would then cry about the First Admendment, as if it was somehow more important and necessary to protect than the second....
I was once in contact with someone who liked my Colt carving...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHRcwUhVmb8

He put me onto a website in Australia where a former gunsmith did incredible full-size replicas of these old percussion revolvers. The difference was, they were all finished in natural wood, since the gun laws prevented him from making them look like real weapons. You'd think those kinds of strict gun laws would make a difference.

The real reason they were effective at all, as far as handguns were concerned at any rate, is that unlike the States, there isn't much of a market for illegal firearms in Australia. No easily crossed borders and a long way to ship--especially if you're not even sure you can get them into the country. The same laws in the US wouldn't work.

-Bob
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