What scale is best for post-apoc?

dicehead
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May 19th, 2009, 2:00 pm #1

I've been writing some rules for a post-apoc wargame but I can't decide on the scale. Here's what I've worked out so far..

2mm + 6mm: too small for this but there are some nice 6mm scale vehicles.
10mm: Interesting scale but a bit fiddly, doesn't come with much in the way of vehicles.
15mm: Cheap, loads of vehicles (ie toy cars) which look ok next to most 15mm models. Wide range of sci-fi and alien types that make good mutants. Wild west types make good survivors and modern military can make nice corporate / government types.
25/28mm: Some amazing models, loads of choice and more suited to the skirmish sort of game I am making. The big problem though is that even if you were to find decent vehicles (there are a few places to get them from) I don't think vehicles work very well at 28mm scale.

I've left out 20mm because I haven't looked at much in that scale. The Dark Future miniatures are apparently 20mm but I haven't seen them next to matchbox / hot wheels cars so it's hard to judge how right they look with those. They are also hard to find and expensive but there seems to be quite a lot of suitable 20mm stuff out there.

What do you think? What scale are you playing? I think I've pretty much convinced myself 15mm is the way to go but then I see a really superb 28mm model and find myself torn.
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RavenFeast
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May 19th, 2009, 2:32 pm #2

You could have the rules fit multiple scales (15mm and 28mm are quite common) and just have conversions for weapon and movement ranges dependent upon the scale of the figures used.

I play games in various scales, but only collect and paint 28mm-ish because I like to see what the figure is from across the table. :(|grin:
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dicehead
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May 19th, 2009, 2:46 pm #3

I'm just trying to stop myself randomly buying every figure I take a liking to in five different scales, which is my normal trick! The rules are adaptable for any scale as I know a lot of people like 15mm for skirmish games myself included. Now I've spotted those lovely 1:50 cars though I'm wavering towards 28mm for the same reason you mention. Wish I'd found this forum earlier I'd have saved myself a lot of time looking for bits of info on the net! Seeing the miniatures next to cars is what I really needed.
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mattblackgod
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May 19th, 2009, 4:02 pm #4

I am a 28mm man myself. Lots of minis to choose from. Hell you can go cheap by raiding ebay. As for vehicles there are plenty, you just have to hunt about looking for them. My collection of cars and trucks is quite large and most of them came from thrift stores - £1.00 or less. There are loads of rules sets for 28mm too not to mention terrain, if you are too lazy/have no time/dont have the skills to make it.

Like you I dabbled in other scales but I am stuck on 28mm now. Which means what 15mm, hotwheels/darkfuture and 6mm bits I have will be going to evil bay to fund more 28mm goodness.
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Whiskyrat
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May 19th, 2009, 9:50 pm #5

dicehead wrote:I've left out 20mm because I haven't looked at much in that scale. The Dark Future miniatures are apparently 20mm but I haven't seen them next to matchbox / hot wheels cars so it's hard to judge how right they look with those. They are also hard to find and expensive but there seems to be quite a lot of suitable 20mm stuff out there.
28mm for the reasons mentioned plus I need to minimize my unpainted lead mountain - so a figure in my house is more likely to get undercoated if it can be used in two game settings. :$

If you fancy 20mm take a look at Warlands

FWIW, Hot wheel cars and 1/72vehicles generally look ok for 20mm gaming.


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Ross
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May 19th, 2009, 9:55 pm #6

Yar, I'm a 25mm-32mm fan, though I'd recommend that if it's cars and trucks that have you hooked on the wasteland then scale it down to 15mm, cheaper, much cheaper!
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thewizardofoz
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May 20th, 2009, 4:49 am #7

im a 28mm man mainly because of my 'roots' in gaming (40k :( ) but i have also looked into smaller scales, because my REAL first system was mechwarrior, and i liked that game alot, but everyone decided to quit out on me... :'(
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v_lazy_dragon
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May 20th, 2009, 8:03 am #8

I'm a 28mm boy... but if I was doing it all again I'd probably be 20mm due to the abundance of cheap military vehicles, pre made scenery & ever increasing ranges of moderns, old west, etc; all of which seem fairly cheap. There is also the benefit of being able to use 1:64 cars (which seem to be what the majority of toy boxes contain)


I must admitt to never really considering 15mm 'skirmish' scale - Instead I would tend to base multiple figures together and use it for unit level stuff (also because I'm not entirely sure how easy it woud be to move single 15mm figures around on some of the bigger tables...)
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Benny
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May 20th, 2009, 9:13 am #9

Peronally my favourite scale to game in is 15mm, but this scale is aimed at larger conflicts at the company level or higher depending on the scale your game is using.

I prefer 2mm, 6mm, 10mm, 20mm and 25mm to 28mm for gaming, but 28mm is the most popular and the range of PA miniatures available are pretty impressive. I hate to say it, but I find that if you want to play PA without ridiculous levels of conversion and hunting obscure companies for suitable minis, you'll be best to go with 28mm.
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aluangel
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May 20th, 2009, 10:09 am #10

I have similar problem, I believe all scales ranging 15mm-28mm are suitable for postapo gaming. I prefer 28 mm though. There is really huge selecton of miniatures up there. Almost every modification is possible. Cars, tanks and trucks are not a problem too. Almost all car toys in scal of 1-50 - 1-43 i suitable.
20mm is appopriate if somone want to use matchbox or hotwheels cars.
15mm is tempting for me because I want to use Ambush Alley rules to create last war small encounters... but 28mm will act even better only problem are money :doh:
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