Questions on a Bill Davis PPC Revolver in .44 mag

Questions on a Bill Davis PPC Revolver in .44 mag

Joined: May 28th, 2010, 3:24 am

May 28th, 2010, 3:41 am #1

My first post here, This sure looks like the right place for a my questions. Thanks

Shot a friends Bill Davis PPC revolver (.38 spl built on a S&W model 10) in the 1970's, knew about Bills PPC revolvers, always wanted one, but have always been more fan of S&W N frames. Have seen a couple Bill Davis S&W 28's in .357, thought that was what I was looking at when I found this S&W N frame pictured below.

Am looking for info on the below Bill Davis Custom PPC built on a S&W model 29 no dash (1959) .44 mag I just picked up, have posted questions elsewhere but no answers yet. does anyone have a idea of when this revolver was was built and its grade? also what kind of scope mount was it machined for? it is the first PPC style .44 mag I have seen. Were these common? Several have suggested it was built as a bowling pin revolver. Any thoughts on that?.

Revolver weights in at over 4 lbs empty, has a 6 inch long barrel and one inch round barrel, target hammer, trigger and grips, a fine trigger job, a upper astrocrat rail, a lower rail, a trigger overtravel screw, 7-25-50 yard selectable front sight. Hoping to shoot it this weekend.

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Thanks again, olypenn22



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JP
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May 28th, 2010, 5:13 am #2

Your gun is a grade 3 round bbl.with 4 ounce davis accu-lock under bbl.(the system to lock cylinder to frame)was built in the mid to late 80's most likely. Most likely has an Apex bbl.Should have lead bullets fired through it as it is not designed for jacketed due to bore diameter,twist rate,and land and groove configuration. If it has any initials stamped on frame where you would normally find model number,post them on this sight and I can tell you who the gunsmith was that built it. Not all gunsmiths stamped the frames though,I was VP of operations and Bill's team mate til he closed in early 90's Bill is one of the best PPC shooters of all time and his guns some of the best ever. JP
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Joined: May 28th, 2010, 3:24 am

May 28th, 2010, 10:09 am #3

JP,

Thank you, great info, saw Bill shoot in the mid 1970's, he was amazing.

Stamped in the crain is C.K.J.

Do you think the Astrocrats scope mount milling was by Davis or done later?.

Do you have any idea of what scope mounts would fit?

Would it be safe to shoot 44 mag out of the Revolver (if so how hot of a round) or should I stick to .44 spl?

Any idea of twist rate on the barrel?



Thanks again, olypenn22
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May 30th, 2010, 5:54 pm #4

The Gunsmith was Chad Jukes he Unfortunately passed away in the mid 80's not long after building your gun I suspect.He was a very good gunsmith and a good person as well.The bbl should have 10 lands and grooves and 1 in 14 twist.Should have lead bullets with a lower velocity shot through it.Don't think scope grooves were done at Bill Davis but look like they could accept Ruger Red hawk type of scope rings.JP
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June 1st, 2010, 2:30 pm #5

Your gun is a grade 3 round bbl.with 4 ounce davis accu-lock under bbl.(the system to lock cylinder to frame)was built in the mid to late 80's most likely. Most likely has an Apex bbl.Should have lead bullets fired through it as it is not designed for jacketed due to bore diameter,twist rate,and land and groove configuration. If it has any initials stamped on frame where you would normally find model number,post them on this sight and I can tell you who the gunsmith was that built it. Not all gunsmiths stamped the frames though,I was VP of operations and Bill's team mate til he closed in early 90's Bill is one of the best PPC shooters of all time and his guns some of the best ever. JP
JP,
I too have a Bill Davis PPC gun. My gun has "G20" stamped on the crane. Any ideas as to gunsmith or year of manufacture. I bought the gun used in the 90's and it's still a good shooter.
I've worn out the rubberized trigger stop, but a super glued pencil eraser has worked okay for the last 7 or 8 years.

Thanks for any assistance. Larry.
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June 2nd, 2010, 4:26 am #6

Larry
I believe the gunsmith's name was Gene,I don't remember him using that stamping but at one point gunsmith's were paid on the guns they completed(late 80's)so this may be the case here.I have the adjustable trigger stops if you need one.If you want to post any pictures I would be happy to give you any input I can. JP
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olypenn22
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June 9th, 2010, 7:46 am #7

JP,

Thank you for the info, Sorry to here the gunsmith passed, have lost way to many friends the last 10 years, and you are correct, Ruger rings fit the revolvers rail, in my research have yet to find a another reference to a Bill Davis PPC revolver in .44 mag, as .38spl and .357 mag guns seemed to dominated PPC shooting wonder how common the .44's were.?

Thanks again, olypenn22

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June 10th, 2010, 4:00 am #8

Guns were built in 44 mag.41 mag.but I don't think anyone shot them in a ppc match they just liked the look of the gun.I believe we built a couple in 45 long colt and ACP too. There was a big push for a short time where we built PPC revolvers in 32cal.speed loaders were a problem as was ammo and they just never performed as well as a 38. Built them on Colt and S&W frames just never worked out,so if you ever see one of these you'll know the story. A lot of the special calibers went to England in the late 80's as did many 38 PPC guns and a couple 32 specials too. We had two Dealers in England in the late 80's selling Davis PPC and distinguished guns.You otta go into Heathrow (spelling?)Airport with PPC guns several hundred rounds of ammo and no gun permits to get in or out of England. Marc Cobb and I thought we would still be there on that one. JP
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June 17th, 2010, 2:20 am #9

JP,
A shooting buddy of mine has a Davis Windmaster and he needs a new barrel. Do you have any idea on where he can send it?

Thanks
John
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June 17th, 2010, 4:59 am #10

I'm out of Windmaster bbl's at the moment but let me check with a shooter who had a new one and see if he has and will sell. When I find out I will post you here . JP
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