Does anyone use 125gr. jacketed for PPC?

Joined: February 22nd, 2016, 11:54 pm

July 1st, 2018, 1:24 am #1

I would like to know what most people load for 38 special for PPC? I was curious if everyone just loads the 148 wadcutter and that's all? Thanks for your help on this, Dave.
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July 1st, 2018, 7:57 am #2

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July 1st, 2018, 2:48 pm #3

Very nice looking bullet, wish they were available in the United States.
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July 9th, 2018, 2:57 pm #4

148 is the standard in a lead bullet,with the hollow base the bullet becomes longer which stabilizes it better , when you shoot a lighter weight bullet where the length is not much different than the width they have a tendency to have flyers on 50 yd targets. As their velocity starts to drop they tip and sail.
Mid 80s we experimented with a 100 grain hb, forget who made it. At 25 is was great,like shooting a 22 in match 4. At 50 we had a hard time holding 9 ring. We gave up, because loading separate loads for different stages was too much effort and we were more concerned with accuracy than gaining time reducing recoil
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July 11th, 2018, 1:13 am #5

MarcCobb, thanks for the information. The top 4-5 revolver shooters in my league are shooting 125gr. jacketed hollow points loaded with 5.1 of 231. They're all shooting 98-99%! They also use a red dot, while I'm still shooting open sights at 95-96%. Just trying to find an edge.
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July 11th, 2018, 2:56 am #6

Twister1969 wrote: MarcCobb, thanks for the information. The top 4-5 revolver shooters in my league are shooting 125gr. jacketed hollow points loaded with 5.1 of 231. They're all shooting 98-99%! They also use a red dot, while I'm still shooting open sights at 95-96%. Just trying to find an edge.
Toney,Been corresponding with a top shooter in Canada. They and Aussies are using 100 grain SWC cast lead powder coated bullets, seated about 3 mm below flush over 1.9-1.2 grains of BE and getting prenominal groups at the 50 from a machine rest. He sent me some but couldn't get them to shoot from my gun that well. However ordered some 105 grainers, SWC from Matts Bullets and getting consistent one hole groups at 50 with these using 1.9 BE. Was told these are cast out of" Lee" molds. Haven't tried in any real windy days though, but when calm shoot like a house a fire. Wouldn't have believed it unless I tried it. Like Mark Cobb posted like shooting a .22. The powder coated bullets reduce smoke extensively for inside matches.
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July 11th, 2018, 7:25 pm #7

xcop , a couple of questions on your post. When you say 3mm below flush, you mean the complete bullet is below the case mouth? Also, did you mean 1.9-2.1 on the powder charge? Thanks for your help, Dave.
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July 12th, 2018, 9:58 pm #8

Twister1969 wrote: xcop , a couple of questions on your post. When you say 3mm below flush, you mean the complete bullet is below the case mouth? Also, did you mean 1.9-2.1 on the powder charge? Thanks for your help, Dave.
 Dave,(thought it was Toney)The top of the bullet is seated so that it is 3mm-3.175 mm below mouth of case down into case on top of powder. One guy went 4 mm. I found the 3.175 mm shot best for me out of my gun, a Bob Jones. This eliminates more air gap. The loads they have used are 1.9 - 2.1 of BE and 2.2-2.4 of WST. Mouth just barely crimped for feeding. Finding the sweet spot with these is the key.
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July 14th, 2018, 4:33 am #9

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Twister1969 wrote: xcop , a couple of questions on your post. When you say 3mm below flush, you mean the complete bullet is below the case mouth? Also, did you mean 1.9-2.1 on the powder charge? Thanks for your help, Dave.
 Dave,(thought it was Toney)The top of the bullet is seated so that it is 3mm-3.175 mm below mouth of case down into case on top of powder. One guy went 4 mm. I found the 3.175 mm shot best for me out of my gun, a Bob Jones. This eliminates more air gap. The loads they have used are 1.9 - 2.1 of BE and 2.2-2.4 of WST. Mouth just barely crimped for feeding. Finding the sweet spot with these is the key.
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xcop, thanks for your response, Dave.
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September 5th, 2018, 9:20 pm #10

x-cop, tried your suggested load, using ibejihead bullets, and the results are pretty impressive. I have bullets coming from Matt's, I ordered the 100 gr. swc, and also some 125 gr. wc's. I'm going to try changing the powder load a little to see if it changes anything. Thanks again for the help, Dave.
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