BE OR WIN POWDER

BE OR WIN POWDER

CHARLES NICKOLSON
CHARLES NICKOLSON

August 16th, 2002, 4:52 pm #1

I AM ABOUT 25 YEARS OUT OF NATIONAL COMPETITION.I WAS 15 AT MISS. IN 79. I AM GETTING BACK ON A LOCAL LEVEL ONLY.THE STANDARD POWDER WAS 2.7 GR OF B E WITH 148 GR HBWC . WIN 321 STARTED TO BE USED A LITTLE IN 79. WHAT IS THE PROS AND CONS OF BOTH NOW? I HAVE BEEN USING 321 IN MY 45 AND IT SHOOTS GOOD. I DO NOTICE UNBURNT POWDER WHEN I AM SHOOTING THE 38. I DO NOT HAVE A RASUM REST ANY MORE TO CHECK GROOP SIZE. THE 38 IS MY MOST CONSERN. I AM SHOOTING A S&W 686. THANKS FOR ANY HELP.
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August 17th, 2002, 7:27 pm #2

I have been using 3.0 of Win 231 with really good results for 2 years now.
I have taken it down to 2.8 and been ok.
My bullet choice is Speer 148 hbwc with this powder (3.0 Win 231)
Best of luck!
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charles nickolson
charles nickolson

August 28th, 2002, 3:33 pm #3

are there any other ppc web sights? what is the best 148 gr hbwc bullet out of my s&w 686?
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March 25th, 2017, 5:43 am #4

Check out Zero Bullets. Top notch quality and as accurate as you need them to be.
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Joined: December 29th, 2016, 8:08 am

March 29th, 2017, 2:01 am #5

are there any other ppc web sights? what is the best 148 gr hbwc bullet out of my s&w 686?
My S&W 686 likes the 100gr SWC with 2.6gr of Trail Boss for 50 yards with the projectile pushed down 3.3mm from the case mouth, I use Federal Brass but others use the same load with Starline in 38 special. I can ( resting prone with a sandbag ) group <2" with a stock barrel + single action which is very decent for a stock revolver. Never had any joy using HBWC in any weight, seemed to always be tipping with some key holing badly. I still think the HBWC like a twist rate of 1:12 or less to stabilize around 800 fps, the 1:18 & 3/4 twist of most S&W revolvers need you to push the HBWC faster that 850 to stabilize which leads to leading which leads to inaccuracy.
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Joined: December 21st, 2016, 3:52 am

March 30th, 2017, 2:01 pm #6

Hello Andrew,

I second your thoughts on the 100 SWC. I know the guys in my club are really liking the results of these little bullets.
We are running them with WST and N310 though. Love the reduced recoil as well!
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March 30th, 2017, 3:56 pm #7

I am looking for a source or sources for 100 SWC Bullets in the US. Thanks for any assistance.
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Joined: December 29th, 2016, 8:08 am

April 4th, 2017, 8:24 am #8

Hello Andrew,

I second your thoughts on the 100 SWC. I know the guys in my club are really liking the results of these little bullets.
We are running them with WST and N310 though. Love the reduced recoil as well!
Just managed to get my hands on 5 ( 5x 1LBs ) pounds of WST, going to see how 2 grains behind a 100gr go for 25 yards. Did some testing today with 2.8gr for 50 yards and it was good, soft and accurate. What do you recommend for a 50 Yard load with WST is 2.8 a little high with the 100gr SWC ?
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Joined: December 21st, 2016, 3:52 am

April 4th, 2017, 3:20 pm #9

Hey Andrew,

We are running 2-2.4 grs of WST for our 50 yard loads. Anywhere from 2 mm to 3 mm deep depending on gun.
700-750 fps seems to be the sweat spot and gives you a PF of 70-75 so no recoil! Sub X-ring
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Joined: December 29th, 2016, 8:08 am

April 5th, 2017, 3:44 am #10

Thanks CanadaPPC for that, I just tested out 2.6gr today in my new model 10 and it was ok but definitely not x-ring accuracy. Was kicking a little bit more than I though but I will go down to 2.4 and see if its better or worse. Love this new revolver I picked up, bull barrel and blued.
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