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Two grand ~- ~- ~ under the seas

J-F.
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Joined: May 9th, 2009, 11:14 am

June 17th, 2012, 10:16 am #1

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
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June 17th, 2012, 11:08 am #2

...great comparisons as usual!
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June 17th, 2012, 11:26 am #3

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
'Personl comments' section are very interesting and insightful. Thanks.

"Life's an adventure, you might as well wear a Panerai"
Steve (steveroadking)


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June 17th, 2012, 11:27 am #4

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
as always, thanks for sharing!

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Joined: January 25th, 2005, 9:56 am

June 17th, 2012, 12:52 pm #5

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching


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Joined: February 22nd, 2009, 1:02 am

June 17th, 2012, 1:24 pm #6

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
and the dial of the 202. Godbo? Ramzilla?

Thanks for the comparison!



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June 17th, 2012, 2:39 pm #7

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
Your posts are like opening up a history book. Thanks for your efforts. By the way, if you ever do a book, I want one signed!

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June 17th, 2012, 2:57 pm #8

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
is another all-steel 47mm submersible, but this time a non-chrono like the 285. It should have the 285-style markers (circles instead of sticks) and the Slytech's bezel. Rated to 2500M and with the in-house movement. Such a beast would be so suhweet!

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June 17th, 2012, 4:14 pm #9

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
Wonderful comparison J-F > Merci


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June 17th, 2012, 4:30 pm #10

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
Fabulous comparisons as well

Cheers!
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June 17th, 2012, 5:24 pm #11

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
These threads are appreciated
John

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June 17th, 2012, 8:16 pm #12

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
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#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 11:39 pm

June 17th, 2012, 9:58 pm #14

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
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#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
.

So much MORE than just a Watch

What Watch ,, it's the M8TES behind my brand that I LOVE ,, the Watch is just the GPS

A decade on ,, I COPY it now ,, More than EVER b4 >> it's a PANERAI behind every Panerai is a PANERISTI

And dat , SIMPLY blows me away ,, U Bet....................... BBQ Drew RIP


Feel the Passion ,, Respect the DNA ,, Cheers Beers ,,, Hoo Roo Hammer

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June 17th, 2012, 10:31 pm #15

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#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
I agree, Rocky takes the Back Seat here -
Grrrrr8 Presentation J-F
U make that French Flag Proud . . History in the making.



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Joined: December 21st, 2004, 6:25 pm

June 17th, 2012, 10:35 pm #16

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
If I did ....... It would be a 202
Merci

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Joined: January 14th, 2006, 8:05 pm

June 18th, 2012, 12:46 am #17

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
LOVE that J-F........the 202 is by far my favorite sub.

RIDE





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Joined: January 6th, 2008, 6:16 pm

June 18th, 2012, 8:26 am #18

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
I need a 47mm sub some day
Cheers,
Martin

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June 18th, 2012, 12:16 pm #19

#01 Pam 322 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...
#02 Pam 217 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... /Left-Left
#03 Pam 249 vs Pam 349 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... .+and+more.
#04 Pam 194 vs Pam 285 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... omless+tub+...
#05 Pam 127 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... her+killer+...
#06 Pam 187 vs Pam 193 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... me+in+deep
#07 Pam 232 vs Pam 372 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... heir+bases
#08 Pam 202 vs Pam 225 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... +two+black
#09 Pam 203 vs Pam 368 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... st+of+time_+_+_
#10 Pam 249 vs Pam 294 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... ed+Numbers




#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
Thanks for the comparison post J-F!!! . Enjoy this kind of post so much!! thanks.

Cheers
HongT

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June 18th, 2012, 9:19 pm #20

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#11 : Pam 187 vs Pam 202



2004, first monster chronograph edited by pamerai as a Special edition of 1000 units. Its case is made of steel. It was shown with another extreme submersible, the Pam 194 2500 meters. The Pam 202 have for nickname : Subzilla. In chronologic order the 187 is the second Panerai to use the 1950 design after the Pam 127, it even takes some of its codes.

2005, second oversized chronograph, in collaboration with Sylvester Stallone, produced at 500 units as a special edition too. In this series there is also another Sylvester Stallone edition with a white dial, the Pam 225.



Views of the dials :

Pam 187









Pam 202









Some details :

Of course the both are tritium dialed

Pam 187


Pam 202



One visible blue 1000.


vs

Slytech.


Automatic Chrono above the third counter makes the fourth line on the Pam 187


Hours markers are rounded battons surrunded with black on the Pam 187.


They are not surrunded on the Pam 202.


The Pam 187 have a date function ...

... Very discrete, between 4 and 5 hours.


On the 202 the tachymeter end and start with a two dots marker.


The 187 is more conventional with its 60.



Together







Views of the bezels :

On the Pam 187 the markers and numerals are thick and made of white gold.


They are smaller on the Pam 202.


On the 187 there is only two markers between 0 and 15 minutes.


When in more each minute is filled by black on the Pam 202.


On the Pam 187 the pearl is in a triangle.


It is circled with a ring on the 202.


A big difference of style between the grooves :


On both the sapphire is thick of 5 millimeters...

Pam 187


Pam 202





Views of the cases :

Both have a 1950 style case. The Pam 187 is the heaviest with 182 grams versus 136 grams for the Pam 202 ( weight taken naked, head and screws only ) which have a titanium case.

Pam 187









Pam 202









Together







Helium valve for the two of them, the 187 receive in more a quick date change mechanism


The steel is more shiny than the titanium.



Views of the casebacks :

Pam 187


Pam 202


The writing is bigger on the Pam 187



The movements :

Pam 187 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Monometallic Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device.
Power reserve 46 hours.
Bridges and oscillating weight personalised PANERAI.
Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, date, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.

Pam 202 :

Movement: automatic mechanical, Panerai OP XII calibre, 13¼ lignes, 27 jewels. Glucydur® balance making 28,800 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 46 hours. Bridges and oscillating weight with Côtes de Genève decoration. Oscillating weight personalised PANERAI. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, calculation of immersion time, chronograph with three counters.


Some personal comments:

Here we can say : what a beast ! But for which one ?

Even though the two use the same design, have the same size, everything seems larger, bigger, stronger and perhaps violent on the 187 is also visible on its caseback. The 202 is not weak, by far, it just looks softer (Surprising for a Stallone Edition).


Godzilla vs Rambo ??


Thanks for watching
A great job. Love the detailled pics!
Thanks again!

Greetings,

Mark Sanders

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