OT : Paypal as a gift, I think it's is a big risk for the buyer but don't understand how >

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OT : Paypal as a gift, I think it's is a big risk for the buyer but don't understand how >

J-F.
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August 2nd, 2012, 6:48 pm #1

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
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August 2nd, 2012, 7:23 pm #2

I'm NOT one for new rules, but where they make sense, they should exist. This could serve to protect us in the rare case when something does go wrong. I'm for it!

But then I'd also be for drawing and quartering anyone wronging someone from P.com

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August 2nd, 2012, 7:42 pm #3

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
to only Christmas and birthdays.



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August 2nd, 2012, 7:57 pm #4

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
I seen other forums ban the asking of paypal gift.

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August 2nd, 2012, 7:57 pm #5

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
I believe WUS just created a rule forbidding Paypal gift. I personally won't do it. I'd rather pick up the 3 or so percent and feel that there is a little buyer protection..
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August 2nd, 2012, 8:47 pm #6

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?


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August 2nd, 2012, 8:48 pm #7

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
Paypal sees it as a gift and not a purchase, so can't open a dispute.

Customs send it to me that way, but wouldn't use it for a watch purchase if I didn't know the seller

DON

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August 2nd, 2012, 10:07 pm #8

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
when we purchase something and when making payment, say it is a gift - which is not correct.
How can we when paying for something call it a gift - it is not truthful - imho.

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August 2nd, 2012, 10:38 pm #9

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
I do think that sending funds as a "gift" could be dicey for unknown seller, or for larger amounts. If a seller doesn't want to take an extra hit, adding 3% on my end for a strap or two isn't a big deal.

But that's between a buyer and a seller, personally. Forums getting between them can be tricky, from a responsibility perspective. I would think there's a point where the forum would
like to distance themselves from transactions. Yes, guidelines an rules are good - don't get me wrong ~

Hope that makes sense











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August 3rd, 2012, 1:01 am #10

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
Not sure why but since day 1, the 'gift' option's never being available for me.

Chye
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gfriedell
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August 3rd, 2012, 4:53 am #11

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
We have been working to reduce and simplify the rules so the trading fora require less monitoring and moderating. We can't make a rule to protect parties from every form of potential abuse, they have to take some responsibility to use their own good judgement and common sense.

Personally, when i am buying, If the seller demands payment as a gift i will opt to make a regular payment and pay the fees myself. Otherwise, I will not buy from a seller that demands payent as a gift. If they are willing to skim Paypal out of fees, then I have some question in the back of my mind if they will cheat me too.




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August 3rd, 2012, 12:15 pm #12

This strange and odd asking can be allowed from professional sellers in the vendor's market .... maybe they just should have a declared activity and pay their local taxes

With paypal as a gift there is any possibility to ask for a refund if the seller do not want even any possibility to open a dispute if the parcel were lost

new rule ?
and you should not do the deal anyway.


I never understood the fear of the gift payment when a wire is commonly accepted and filing for a refund with paypal can be a nightmare anyway.

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August 3rd, 2012, 12:18 pm #13

You would have to ban wires and bank transfers also.. There is no recourse on those.
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August 3rd, 2012, 1:41 pm #14

We have been working to reduce and simplify the rules so the trading fora require less monitoring and moderating. We can't make a rule to protect parties from every form of potential abuse, they have to take some responsibility to use their own good judgement and common sense.

Personally, when i am buying, If the seller demands payment as a gift i will opt to make a regular payment and pay the fees myself. Otherwise, I will not buy from a seller that demands payent as a gift. If they are willing to skim Paypal out of fees, then I have some question in the back of my mind if they will cheat me too.




"But sometimes when you bring the thunder, you get lost in the storm." K.P.



Yeah, I'm with Gary. nt
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August 5th, 2012, 1:28 pm #15

when we purchase something and when making payment, say it is a gift - which is not correct.
How can we when paying for something call it a gift - it is not truthful - imho.

If someone wants me to send money as a gift for a purchase I just add the percentage and pay via regular PayPal for services. I don't agree with trying to beat the system, PayPal had to bear the brunt of building a business model, I would not appreciate it if my customers tried to figure out a way around my paying for my services.

-don
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