Ok, I need to be schooled on cases... 6500 vs. 6502

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December 11th, 2011, 5:09 pm #21

The difference between a 207A PreV case and an OP6502 case are just huge.



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December 11th, 2011, 6:13 pm #22

And I happen to have a side by side comparison shot of both cases PreA9 OP6500 & 9A OP6502

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The most obvious difference can be seen from the lug shape..

And as this comparison is on the PVD case, the color is different, 6500 PVD appears lead pencil gray under low-light condition and appears bluish under intense-lighting.. While the 6502 PVD appears black under low-light condition and appears grayish under intense-lighting

But I really think that it is because the OP6500 is much rarer and the fact that it is basically the left-over PreV cases (5218-209/A & 5218-210/A) So that collectors feel that it is much closer to the roots

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Sam

(the one showing the 2 cgs sides) is more than obvious the differences especially the lug shape and screw positioning.

Thanks Sam.. Great photos

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December 11th, 2011, 6:32 pm #23


I know there is a very slight difference, but please 'splain it to me in simple language

And details, too! did they come from different factories/case makers? Is there a glaring reason why a 6500 should be more valuable to a collector?


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December 11th, 2011, 8:03 pm #24


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take some pics and post them here so we can point out the obvious differences..Would be fun and informative.



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December 11th, 2011, 8:09 pm #25

I think I'm right in saying that another difference between cases are.......

Pre A 4 and Pre A 9 ( PVD cases) have bare steel insertion pins in the CH protector on the 6500 cases as opposed to a PVD coated pin on the 6502 case ..... I think this is highlighted in Sams photo of the two different case above
I'm sure Mickey Rourke will slap me if I'm wrong on this though

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December 11th, 2011, 8:41 pm #26

.......and you cant feel the pin with a blind fold on your eyes



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December 12th, 2011, 10:00 am #27

And I happen to have a side by side comparison shot of both cases PreA9 OP6500 & 9A OP6502

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The most obvious difference can be seen from the lug shape..

And as this comparison is on the PVD case, the color is different, 6500 PVD appears lead pencil gray under low-light condition and appears bluish under intense-lighting.. While the 6502 PVD appears black under low-light condition and appears grayish under intense-lighting

But I really think that it is because the OP6500 is much rarer and the fact that it is basically the left-over PreV cases (5218-209/A & 5218-210/A) So that collectors feel that it is much closer to the roots

Cheers,




Sam

Maybe - but:

PREA OP 6500 ca. 550
PREA OP 6502 without A-Prefix ca. 450
PREA OP 6502 with A-Prefix 300

So not the rarest possibility of a PREA

Am I wrong ?

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December 12th, 2011, 11:28 am #28

take some pics and post them here so we can point out the obvious differences..Would be fun and informative.



Cheers Guillermo
at the Shape of lugs,shape of CG, crown, screws and tubes for the strap, shape of bezel.... there's no differences
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December 14th, 2011, 7:30 am #29

indeed correct. The OP6500 cases were made by CORO. Due to some quality incidents Panerai (Cartier) decided to terminate their relationship. Like Asi suggested the 5218-209 and 5218-210 PreV with screw-in bars as we know them are in fact the same as the OP6500 cases used for the first PreA OP6500 series wich were indeed produced by CORO. I have been able to examine a 5218-210 from a great Italian collector and friend and (we) have come to the conclusion it is cased in a OP6500 (CORO) case. It's 100% the same WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
The differences between the OP6500 cases and OP6502 cases are minimal too some but huge if you know what to look for. I can tell either apart blindfolded. OP6500 cases have sharper edges, the lugs are a bit thicker and the crownguard is bigger also (more rounded on top as we see now on the current series and on the PreV). Basically lugs and the back of the case (not the screw in caseback) tells me all I need to know.




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December 17th, 2011, 3:17 pm #30

With your new 202/A?

It will be interesting to see 3 cases from 3 different makers.

I also wouldn't categorize the OP6500 as being made from pre-V leftover cases. These cases were actually ordered by Vendom/Cartier at Coro who was the casemaker (see my post above).

Cheers and best from the holyland,

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My 202/A and PreA9 OP6500

Clearly we can see difference of the PVD Coating

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And here's a detailed shot of the lug and the side of the case

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and PreA9 OP6500
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And here are side by side photo

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See this detail :

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Slightly different there...



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December 17th, 2011, 3:36 pm #31

Two different case makers - Valgine and Coro.

Great comparison

Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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December 17th, 2011, 3:54 pm #32

Those are the only differences I could spot...

I'm sure there are more if we look through the details

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December 17th, 2011, 4:05 pm #33



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December 17th, 2011, 4:11 pm #34

My 202/A and PreA9 OP6500

Clearly we can see difference of the PVD Coating

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And here's a detailed shot of the lug and the side of the case

202/A
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and PreA9 OP6500
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And here are side by side photo

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See this detail :

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Slightly different there...



Sam

Sam, i also notice width of lug it's diferent. Ain't??

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December 18th, 2011, 8:24 am #35

Probably because of the difference of the case's profile shape

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