Marina Militaire dial

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Marina Militaire dial

foodandvine
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February 10th, 2012, 10:19 pm #1

Hello All,

I'm looking for some help from some of the experts in the forum.

I've recently purchased a pre-owned Panerai from a dealer that I have bought and sold a number of watches with over the years. This dealer does not "specialize" in Panerai so he was not sure of the actual model number. The trade he received did not include the box or papers.

This particular watch looks much like the PAM 36 (tobacco brown dial, Marina Militaire labelling and titanium case) however on the case it does not have the production numbers xxx/200 that I would have expected if it were in fact this watch.

My question out to the rest of you is - do any of you know of another Panerai that would have used the tobacco Marina Militaire dial or is it possible that this watch is in fact either a) a watch that has been serviced with this dial as a replacement or b) a fake.

I wouldn't normally purchase such a watch without papers or the box however I have done a number of deals with this dealer and have never had a problem.

Any help or insights would be greatly appreciated.
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February 10th, 2012, 10:24 pm #2





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February 10th, 2012, 10:38 pm #3

Hello All,

I'm looking for some help from some of the experts in the forum.

I've recently purchased a pre-owned Panerai from a dealer that I have bought and sold a number of watches with over the years. This dealer does not "specialize" in Panerai so he was not sure of the actual model number. The trade he received did not include the box or papers.

This particular watch looks much like the PAM 36 (tobacco brown dial, Marina Militaire labelling and titanium case) however on the case it does not have the production numbers xxx/200 that I would have expected if it were in fact this watch.

My question out to the rest of you is - do any of you know of another Panerai that would have used the tobacco Marina Militaire dial or is it possible that this watch is in fact either a) a watch that has been serviced with this dial as a replacement or b) a fake.

I wouldn't normally purchase such a watch without papers or the box however I have done a number of deals with this dealer and have never had a problem.

Any help or insights would be greatly appreciated.
Definitely French.
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LUCCHAO
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February 11th, 2012, 1:40 am #4

Hello All,

I'm looking for some help from some of the experts in the forum.

I've recently purchased a pre-owned Panerai from a dealer that I have bought and sold a number of watches with over the years. This dealer does not "specialize" in Panerai so he was not sure of the actual model number. The trade he received did not include the box or papers.

This particular watch looks much like the PAM 36 (tobacco brown dial, Marina Militaire labelling and titanium case) however on the case it does not have the production numbers xxx/200 that I would have expected if it were in fact this watch.

My question out to the rest of you is - do any of you know of another Panerai that would have used the tobacco Marina Militaire dial or is it possible that this watch is in fact either a) a watch that has been serviced with this dial as a replacement or b) a fake.

I wouldn't normally purchase such a watch without papers or the box however I have done a number of deals with this dealer and have never had a problem.

Any help or insights would be greatly appreciated.
maybe you're not aware of it, but 36 has millesimation on back of the case near lugs, not in the caseback . Pic's would help a lot as well

best
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samrotandi
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February 11th, 2012, 2:20 am #5



As you can see the number is on the bottom left lug in my photo

And here's the look of the dial



Hope it helps



Sam

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hiroshikato1
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February 11th, 2012, 2:53 am #6

Hello All,

I'm looking for some help from some of the experts in the forum.

I've recently purchased a pre-owned Panerai from a dealer that I have bought and sold a number of watches with over the years. This dealer does not "specialize" in Panerai so he was not sure of the actual model number. The trade he received did not include the box or papers.

This particular watch looks much like the PAM 36 (tobacco brown dial, Marina Militaire labelling and titanium case) however on the case it does not have the production numbers xxx/200 that I would have expected if it were in fact this watch.

My question out to the rest of you is - do any of you know of another Panerai that would have used the tobacco Marina Militaire dial or is it possible that this watch is in fact either a) a watch that has been serviced with this dial as a replacement or b) a fake.

I wouldn't normally purchase such a watch without papers or the box however I have done a number of deals with this dealer and have never had a problem.

Any help or insights would be greatly appreciated.
This is useless without pictures. Years ago I spotted a fake 36 at a dealer. If it as no box or papers and no numbers, it is a fake. The 36 is the only modern day Panerai that uses the ETA movement with the angular portions. It is a 200 watch production run in a gigantic SE box, if it's too good to be true... I love these dealers who don't specialize in Panerai taking in watches they have no business reselling. But hey, people still find Shelby Cobras and Mercedes 300SL gull wings in barns someplace in the Mid West, right? Hiro
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foodandvine
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February 11th, 2012, 3:00 am #7

Hello All,

I'm looking for some help from some of the experts in the forum.

I've recently purchased a pre-owned Panerai from a dealer that I have bought and sold a number of watches with over the years. This dealer does not "specialize" in Panerai so he was not sure of the actual model number. The trade he received did not include the box or papers.

This particular watch looks much like the PAM 36 (tobacco brown dial, Marina Militaire labelling and titanium case) however on the case it does not have the production numbers xxx/200 that I would have expected if it were in fact this watch.

My question out to the rest of you is - do any of you know of another Panerai that would have used the tobacco Marina Militaire dial or is it possible that this watch is in fact either a) a watch that has been serviced with this dial as a replacement or b) a fake.

I wouldn't normally purchase such a watch without papers or the box however I have done a number of deals with this dealer and have never had a problem.

Any help or insights would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry Gents as I should have put some pics up with my post. Here are a front and back. I don't have a high quality camera so please excuse them.
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February 11th, 2012, 3:08 am #8

I'm a newbie here and trying to work out my kinks in adding pictures

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foodandvine
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February 11th, 2012, 3:09 am #9

Sorry Gents as I should have put some pics up with my post. Here are a front and back. I don't have a high quality camera so please excuse them.
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February 11th, 2012, 3:17 am #10

Sorry Gents as I should have put some pics up with my post. Here are a front and back. I don't have a high quality camera so please excuse them.
L dial is suspicious .. n the font ..

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February 11th, 2012, 3:46 am #11

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February 11th, 2012, 3:50 am #12

L dial, tip of lever, wrong engravings, fake movmt.....geezzz

get money back asap

best luck
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February 11th, 2012, 3:58 am #13

Hello All,

I'm looking for some help from some of the experts in the forum.

I've recently purchased a pre-owned Panerai from a dealer that I have bought and sold a number of watches with over the years. This dealer does not "specialize" in Panerai so he was not sure of the actual model number. The trade he received did not include the box or papers.

This particular watch looks much like the PAM 36 (tobacco brown dial, Marina Militaire labelling and titanium case) however on the case it does not have the production numbers xxx/200 that I would have expected if it were in fact this watch.

My question out to the rest of you is - do any of you know of another Panerai that would have used the tobacco Marina Militaire dial or is it possible that this watch is in fact either a) a watch that has been serviced with this dial as a replacement or b) a fake.

I wouldn't normally purchase such a watch without papers or the box however I have done a number of deals with this dealer and have never had a problem.

Any help or insights would be greatly appreciated.
It has been talked about before, there are some L dials out in the wild.
Cheers!!
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February 11th, 2012, 4:01 am #14

Bernie - thanks for the optimism but why is the production number missing? I.E - xx/200
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foodandvine
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February 11th, 2012, 4:02 am #15

Is there a way to verify through Panerai?
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February 11th, 2012, 4:13 am #16

sorry

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February 11th, 2012, 4:14 am #17

Bernie - thanks for the optimism but why is the production number missing? I.E - xx/200
Fakey McFake

OP would toss it in the trash brother, every last bit of it is faker than Santa Monica boobies

Dial should be tobacco yours is chocolate

Movement is fake with stamped stickered plate covers, panerai font is not wven correct

bad bad bad
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February 11th, 2012, 4:17 am #18

Sorry Gents as I should have put some pics up with my post. Here are a front and back. I don't have a high quality camera so please excuse them.
This is one of those cheap fakes.

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ERSanchez
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February 11th, 2012, 4:37 am #19

...no need to verify with anyone else....it's fake. There isn't anything correct about that watch.

Get your money back!

Eddie "Sharkman" Sanchez

"It's all about the patina, Baby!"

P U R A V I D A !




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February 11th, 2012, 5:29 am #20

Did you notice the spelling of Panerai in the plexi case back in the gold lettering?
If you zoom in it says " Officine Paneri", I guess they forgot the second "a"...
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