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J-F.
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J-F.
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Joined: May 9th, 2009, 11:14 am

May 16th, 2012, 2:27 pm #1

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching

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May 16th, 2012, 2:43 pm #2

Is this because as you say the movement is lost in a large case?

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May 16th, 2012, 2:45 pm #3

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
Personally, I'd pick the MM

Thanks again!! Great stuff





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May 16th, 2012, 2:50 pm #4

Is this because as you say the movement is lost in a large case?

with the eyes the seconds are not so centred, for sure a technical reason : when you see how large is the screw-back on the 368 it is evident that the P2002 have a smaller diameter
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May 16th, 2012, 2:54 pm #5

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching




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May 16th, 2012, 2:56 pm #6

with the eyes the seconds are not so centred, for sure a technical reason : when you see how large is the screw-back on the 368 it is evident that the P2002 have a smaller diameter
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May 16th, 2012, 3:34 pm #7

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
Also, nice comparison and great review,
Thank you

Tomi
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May 16th, 2012, 4:13 pm #8

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
JF

Curiously, would you have been happier with 8 Giorni in a straight line vs the english text? I'm sure we would have all preferred the circular 8 Giorni...

The 368 was my favorite of 2011...
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May 16th, 2012, 4:54 pm #9

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
Great review and thanks for taking the time to do it!

UnderPar
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May 16th, 2012, 5:07 pm #10

Is this because as you say the movement is lost in a large case?

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May 16th, 2012, 5:08 pm #11

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
J-F Keep em coming these reviews are great!!! nt
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May 16th, 2012, 6:25 pm #12

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
and i totally agree with you about the 8 giorni. that would have been sick.

8 grazie.

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May 16th, 2012, 6:57 pm #13

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
I prefer the 217.

-Jimmer

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May 16th, 2012, 7:13 pm #14

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching

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May 16th, 2012, 10:21 pm #15

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
Thanks for the nice post about this two lefties.
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May 16th, 2012, 11:59 pm #16

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
nice sharing....
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May 17th, 2012, 1:07 am #17

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
and I absolutely love both of them.


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May 17th, 2012, 2:47 am #18

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
MM Awesome!!! 8 day second reset 47mm destro unreal.... I choose the 368 if I could only have one.. But later down the road hope to pick up a 217.


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May 17th, 2012, 6:11 am #19

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching




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Joined: February 27th, 2005, 11:39 pm

May 17th, 2012, 9:47 am #20

#1 :http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/m ... C+49+vs+50...

#2 : Pam 217 vs Pam 368




Three years after The Mother comes a new model in the family of the 47mm. Again a Luminor (although accompanied by the superlative 203 and a series of submersible) the Pam 217 is the first in destro 47mm, special edition and more she reads the ralely seen Marina Militare on its dial,
The 217 is more historically correct than its predecessor Mother 127 : thanks to its very historic font !

It will be joined six years later by a second destro, the Pam 368.

Destro, Luminor Marina 47mm and are the only points they have in common. SE of 1000 units is the last.
When the Pam 217 has all the attributes of a military watch with a look a little wild, the Pam 368 opts dressed, more ... polite.
Steel and black dial for the 217; Titanium, brown dial and in-house movement for the 368.



Views of the dials :





The both have a domed crystal . and golden hands.








The seconds hands is less near to the 3 on the 368 than on the 217






The font






Views of the cases :







Both have a brushed case and a polished bezel.
Darkening, the case in titanium on the 368 offers more contrast.



The 368 carry the new quick strap change system new school vs old school.





Views of the crown levers :



Down to up for the 217



More conventional for the 368


The movements:

Pam 217
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai OP XI calibre with swan's neck regulator, 16½ lignes, 17 jewels, Côtes de Genève decoration. Glucydur® balance with Nivarox® I spring, 21,600 alternations/hour. Incabloc® anti-shock device. Power reserve 56 hours. Chronometer Certificate (C.O.S.C.).

Functions: hours, minutes, seconds.


The new decoration with Côtes de Geneve.


Pam 368
Movement: hand-wound mechanical, Panerai P.2002/9 calibre, executed entirely by Panerai, 13¾ lignes, 8.2 mm thick, 23 jewels, Glucydur® balance, 28,800 alternations/hour. Kif-Parechoc® anti-shock device. 8 days power reserve, 3 high-speed spring barrels, seconds reset device. 246 components.

Functions: hours, minutes, small seconds, power reserve indicator on the back, seconds reset.


Nice machine and smoth winding but maybe a bit lost in a such large case.
The power reserve is on the back, blue hand : nice detail !



Some personal comments :

When it was possible to make one pair with the 127 and the 217, at this time the 368 seems a bit like an orphan. The biggest regret I have with this model is the writing 8 DAYS has been made in english and I still try to imagine it with one linear 8 GIORNI

No one is a competitor or a substitute for the other, they are a different offer for I think a different use.



Destro or Destro ??

Thanks for watching
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