Haze under Crown?

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Haze under Crown?

GWJohnny
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GWJohnny
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September 2nd, 2017, 9:33 pm #1

Recently bought a PAM 321 GMT with power reserve. 5 hours after purchase, I got on a plane to go to Spain. Watch worked fine. Got to Madrid, went to hotel, took a short shower, and put watch on dresser, and went to bed. At 11:00 am next day, I noticed a haze under the crown that took up roughly 1/2+ the inside of the crown. The crown guard was in locked position during shower. And on the plane I adjusted GMT-nothing else. I took the watch back to the retailer (not an AD) and he tried to blame me, but I didn't do anything to the watch and he couldn't explain what was wrong. I gave him the watch/box/papers back and left the store. Can anyone e plain what happened?

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CarsandChronos
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September 2nd, 2017, 10:06 pm #2

How do you see a haze under the crown?
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GWJohnny
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September 2nd, 2017, 11:15 pm #3

Sorry. The front crystal.
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fullcourt1
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September 3rd, 2017, 1:06 am #4

Recently bought a PAM 321 GMT with power reserve. 5 hours after purchase, I got on a plane to go to Spain. Watch worked fine. Got to Madrid, went to hotel, took a short shower, and put watch on dresser, and went to bed. At 11:00 am next day, I noticed a haze under the crown that took up roughly 1/2+ the inside of the crown. The crown guard was in locked position during shower. And on the plane I adjusted GMT-nothing else. I took the watch back to the retailer (not an AD) and he tried to blame me, but I didn't do anything to the watch and he couldn't explain what was wrong. I gave him the watch/box/papers back and left the store. Can anyone e plain what happened?
refund soon....hagd
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more than just a watch
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ferry.monne
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September 3rd, 2017, 3:27 am #5

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peezie
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September 4th, 2017, 2:11 pm #6

refund soon....hagd
Abandoned goods are just that.
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GWJohnny
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September 5th, 2017, 1:03 am #7

refund soon....hagd
I have pictures. Hate to ask, but how do you post pictures. I can't figure out how to post from my iPhone/iPad.
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ThunderDownUnder
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September 5th, 2017, 4:11 am #8

Recently bought a PAM 321 GMT with power reserve. 5 hours after purchase, I got on a plane to go to Spain. Watch worked fine. Got to Madrid, went to hotel, took a short shower, and put watch on dresser, and went to bed. At 11:00 am next day, I noticed a haze under the crown that took up roughly 1/2+ the inside of the crown. The crown guard was in locked position during shower. And on the plane I adjusted GMT-nothing else. I took the watch back to the retailer (not an AD) and he tried to blame me, but I didn't do anything to the watch and he couldn't explain what was wrong. I gave him the watch/box/papers back and left the store. Can anyone e plain what happened?
The haze (moisture) will drop onto the dial and the dial will be stuffed as well who knows if any would be round the movementJohny ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ !

The faster that moisture is out the better ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿคž๐Ÿคž


I believe you of course ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป but there has been many a time when a bloke goes back to his POS or AD and says how did that happen ?

I want recourse now ๐Ÿ They only have your word !

When in reality it entered because they left or have done something that caused it - like a crown down and lever over but not LOCKED in - that's why I think many AD's just flat refuse to believe you did nothing wrong - again an ATM dry test leak down will prove if there is any small leak in the case sealing - if there is that's your proof - but time is of the essence --- NOW ---once they open it you loose that avenue - fwiw I'd ask if been opened or not now ? If not ring around and find a watch maker who has the dry test machine with printed receipt of the outcome then take back to ad - always better to get that test done and won't cost much - then go to your AD with proof in hand the watch isn't sealing ! Most quality watch makers have this machine and there is one in Malmรถ but jocke might be busy ๐Ÿคค

LMK how u get on ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บโ™ฟ๏ธ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
Ohhhh So Much MORE than just a Watch ๐Ÿคฉ itโ€™s the mates behind the Watch & the โ€œMateshipsโ€ we create that simply Blows me โ€œAwayโ€ โค๏ธ

Cheers Beers & Hoo Roo Hammer ๐Ÿ”จ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บโ™ฟ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
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