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May 16th, 2012, 5:47 pm #1

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
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May 16th, 2012, 6:23 pm #2

I think attempting apply 'rationale' to even owning one Panerai would be futile, as it (at least in Base form) is as simple as a watch can get, and at its luxury item price point, you can get any number of watches that technically outperform it for less than $50.

So I feel that it comes down to buying what you like...Hours+Minutes.
So similar, yet so different...








Cheers...

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May 16th, 2012, 6:51 pm #3

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
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May 16th, 2012, 7:09 pm #4

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
For the PASSION as well. Ti, High polished versus non polished, in house versus base movements,seconds hands versus non,sandwhich dial, versus non, but mostly (for me @ least) is because I cant get enough OP





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May 16th, 2012, 7:46 pm #5

What's up Kurt!!!

Good to see you mate!!


Cheers!

Eddie "Sharkman" Sanchez

"It's all about the patina, Baby!"

P U R A V I D A !




The pleasure of what we enjoy is lost by wanting more ~ fortune cookie
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May 16th, 2012, 7:49 pm #6

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
Seriously....I can see how to the average Joe some of these models all look the same. But for most of us, even the slightest difference is enough to by one that looks the same as what you already have.

In my eyes...there is nothing the same about these.....



Cheers!

Eddie "Sharkman" Sanchez

"It's all about the patina, Baby!"

P U R A V I D A !




The pleasure of what we enjoy is lost by wanting more ~ fortune cookie
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May 16th, 2012, 7:52 pm #7

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
I will give you my take...I have a 000 and a 002, which are extremely similar. My wish list almost exclusively includes base models like 372, 009, 201/A, 232 etc....
I like what I like...
One of the things that draws me to these models ARE the subtle differences. I like it when my wife or friends say "they all look the same", yet I know that I can tell them apart from accross a room!
I have also owned a couple Jeep's, and have many of the same style shirts, pants, shoes, briefcases, etc...
I actually think it would be more strange if all of my watches were drastically different from one and other...
I know what I like

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002 "C"
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May 16th, 2012, 8:18 pm #8

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
I know that every time I buy another brand that i had enjoyed prior to my PAM addiction...I end up hardly ever wearing that watch. Yet again I have been thinking "well maybe I would want another brand instead of having 4-5 Panerai. While the defferences are subtle, this feeling has something to do with "posessing" something that one is passionate about.

Just living the dream waiting for the next PAM
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May 16th, 2012, 8:59 pm #9

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
Really, these are completely different to me!



I can't explain it. I know they are very similar, but I just love seeing them all together and wearing them and appreciating their subtle differences. It gives me much joy. That and I'm pretty much crazy about the design. I could see owning several more Panerai and several different versions of Rolex subs for example. I just love the design and appreciate the variations.

Plus, you wouldn't believe the difference in how straps look on a black face v. a brown for example.

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May 16th, 2012, 9:47 pm #10

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
I think that for a lot of people life consists of a whole lot of logical, sober decision making that's based on the need to see a desirable outcome and figure out the best way to get there. Not coincidentally, I think that many successful people become successful because of this ability and the application of it.

So when you spend a lot of time making sober, analytical decisions and you've gotten to a point because of it where you can indulge in a passion like high-end watches one of the great joys of it comes from making decisions based purely on "I like that one, I'll take it"

In other words... for many people I think collecting watches is a place where they can set aside the analysis and just get what they like because they like it... and if you pursue this hobby long enough you start to recognize certain combinations of things that really press your "want" button, so naturally you end up with a bunch of watches that have those characteristics, which to YOU are very detail oriented and obvious but to others might seem like unimportant, small variations.

Also, I think that with collectors... details often end up being the most important aspect of the entire thing... for instance, show me the 127 and the 372 and I see completely, utterly different watches. Show them to my wife... she just sees two huge watches that look almost exactly the same

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May 16th, 2012, 9:49 pm #11

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
my humble opinion
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May 16th, 2012, 10:29 pm #12

I think that for a lot of people life consists of a whole lot of logical, sober decision making that's based on the need to see a desirable outcome and figure out the best way to get there. Not coincidentally, I think that many successful people become successful because of this ability and the application of it.

So when you spend a lot of time making sober, analytical decisions and you've gotten to a point because of it where you can indulge in a passion like high-end watches one of the great joys of it comes from making decisions based purely on "I like that one, I'll take it"

In other words... for many people I think collecting watches is a place where they can set aside the analysis and just get what they like because they like it... and if you pursue this hobby long enough you start to recognize certain combinations of things that really press your "want" button, so naturally you end up with a bunch of watches that have those characteristics, which to YOU are very detail oriented and obvious but to others might seem like unimportant, small variations.

Also, I think that with collectors... details often end up being the most important aspect of the entire thing... for instance, show me the 127 and the 372 and I see completely, utterly different watches. Show them to my wife... she just sees two huge watches that look almost exactly the same

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If plexi is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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May 16th, 2012, 10:43 pm #13

I think that for a lot of people life consists of a whole lot of logical, sober decision making that's based on the need to see a desirable outcome and figure out the best way to get there. Not coincidentally, I think that many successful people become successful because of this ability and the application of it.

So when you spend a lot of time making sober, analytical decisions and you've gotten to a point because of it where you can indulge in a passion like high-end watches one of the great joys of it comes from making decisions based purely on "I like that one, I'll take it"

In other words... for many people I think collecting watches is a place where they can set aside the analysis and just get what they like because they like it... and if you pursue this hobby long enough you start to recognize certain combinations of things that really press your "want" button, so naturally you end up with a bunch of watches that have those characteristics, which to YOU are very detail oriented and obvious but to others might seem like unimportant, small variations.

Also, I think that with collectors... details often end up being the most important aspect of the entire thing... for instance, show me the 127 and the 372 and I see completely, utterly different watches. Show them to my wife... she just sees two huge watches that look almost exactly the same

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May 17th, 2012, 12:41 am #14

Seriously....I can see how to the average Joe some of these models all look the same. But for most of us, even the slightest difference is enough to by one that looks the same as what you already have.

In my eyes...there is nothing the same about these.....



Cheers!

Eddie "Sharkman" Sanchez

"It's all about the patina, Baby!"

P U R A V I D A !




The pleasure of what we enjoy is lost by wanting more ~ fortune cookie
thanks for sharing
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May 17th, 2012, 12:47 am #15

I love Panerai, always will. I am confused - legitimately - by something I see quite often.

What is the affinity with owning multiple watches that have very, very little difference in appearance? I get that owning one with an in-house vs ETA might have appeal, OK. I see this with straps as well.

Not being at all critical. I would like to understand the rationale behind these decisions. These aren't $200 Seikos we're talking about here.
pam is juz not a normal watch. you may see all their model looks the same but when go into details they are all different, sausage dial vs sandwich dial, normal crown guard vs destro, small second vs based. but is always a story behind a different model and design. i just love the story.

besides, the most important to me fall in love is about the people behind. to me, pam is a community watch, because a pam people from french come to my country meet up and become friend. because of pam i went all the way to singapore to joint their GTG and make friends. I will continue this and hope 1 day i will be able to joint the P day.
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May 17th, 2012, 1:25 am #16

I think that for a lot of people life consists of a whole lot of logical, sober decision making that's based on the need to see a desirable outcome and figure out the best way to get there. Not coincidentally, I think that many successful people become successful because of this ability and the application of it.

So when you spend a lot of time making sober, analytical decisions and you've gotten to a point because of it where you can indulge in a passion like high-end watches one of the great joys of it comes from making decisions based purely on "I like that one, I'll take it"

In other words... for many people I think collecting watches is a place where they can set aside the analysis and just get what they like because they like it... and if you pursue this hobby long enough you start to recognize certain combinations of things that really press your "want" button, so naturally you end up with a bunch of watches that have those characteristics, which to YOU are very detail oriented and obvious but to others might seem like unimportant, small variations.

Also, I think that with collectors... details often end up being the most important aspect of the entire thing... for instance, show me the 127 and the 372 and I see completely, utterly different watches. Show them to my wife... she just sees two huge watches that look almost exactly the same

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If plexi is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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May 17th, 2012, 2:07 am #17

I think that for a lot of people life consists of a whole lot of logical, sober decision making that's based on the need to see a desirable outcome and figure out the best way to get there. Not coincidentally, I think that many successful people become successful because of this ability and the application of it.

So when you spend a lot of time making sober, analytical decisions and you've gotten to a point because of it where you can indulge in a passion like high-end watches one of the great joys of it comes from making decisions based purely on "I like that one, I'll take it"

In other words... for many people I think collecting watches is a place where they can set aside the analysis and just get what they like because they like it... and if you pursue this hobby long enough you start to recognize certain combinations of things that really press your "want" button, so naturally you end up with a bunch of watches that have those characteristics, which to YOU are very detail oriented and obvious but to others might seem like unimportant, small variations.

Also, I think that with collectors... details often end up being the most important aspect of the entire thing... for instance, show me the 127 and the 372 and I see completely, utterly different watches. Show them to my wife... she just sees two huge watches that look almost exactly the same

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If plexi is wrong, I don't want to be right.
My Grails.









Ba Ba Booey.


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May 17th, 2012, 4:56 am #18

As in the one and only time I ever mailed a watch out of the good old USA?

It's great to see you around.

Of course, I still miss that 103 St Sa..

You would think I could find a German date wheel pretty easily no?

I hope all is well!

Charlie.

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May 17th, 2012, 5:05 am #19

I think that for a lot of people life consists of a whole lot of logical, sober decision making that's based on the need to see a desirable outcome and figure out the best way to get there. Not coincidentally, I think that many successful people become successful because of this ability and the application of it.

So when you spend a lot of time making sober, analytical decisions and you've gotten to a point because of it where you can indulge in a passion like high-end watches one of the great joys of it comes from making decisions based purely on "I like that one, I'll take it"

In other words... for many people I think collecting watches is a place where they can set aside the analysis and just get what they like because they like it... and if you pursue this hobby long enough you start to recognize certain combinations of things that really press your "want" button, so naturally you end up with a bunch of watches that have those characteristics, which to YOU are very detail oriented and obvious but to others might seem like unimportant, small variations.

Also, I think that with collectors... details often end up being the most important aspect of the entire thing... for instance, show me the 127 and the 372 and I see completely, utterly different watches. Show them to my wife... she just sees two huge watches that look almost exactly the same

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If plexi is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Very well said!
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May 17th, 2012, 5:06 am #20

Asked myself a MILLION times. It's not just Panerai too, it's all watches in general. Why do I really need more than one good watch, and one watch to wear to the gym?

My initial answer is that I'm missing something more substantial and meaningful in my life. Religion? Goals? When I am focused on another aspect of my life, I find myself spending less and less time thinking about watches. My online hits to places like this, and timezone etc. go way down. When I'm a tad depressed, bored, and inactive, it's the exact opposite. Who knows, I don't think that's the case with most watch lovers I know though. They all have pretty full, meaningful lives.

I think you could say it's part obsessive, if not collectible nature. If as a child you collected baseball cards, perhaps you're more prone to collect watches? What is really the difference between a 72 Tom Seaver and a 73 Tom Seaver?

My dad was a clock guy, he never understood how I could have so many wrist watches, when he literally had dozens of clocks all over the house..

I also think, it's a small way to reward yourself for working hard, grinding it out.. if your family is happy and taken care of, you're not broke, buying a watch, even if it's not all that different from one you already have (for example, I need another rotating bezel watch like I need thinning shears at the barber), it's a way to look down at your wrist and say it was all worth it.

In close, I don't think there is a be all, end all answer. For each individual it's different. I know for me, I've spent a great deal looking inward, or at the man in the mirror, and still don't have the answer. I go from loving having different nice watches, to hating myself for wanting them on a pretty regular basis. It's bi-polar for sure.

Thanks for the thought provoking question... Always enjoy forums like this for that exact reason..



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