Do panerai boutiques & dealers outside the US still commonly sell and ship

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Do panerai boutiques & dealers outside the US still commonly sell and ship

stingerstingray
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July 17th, 2012, 8:36 am #1

their panerai watches w/o an outer cardboard box? How important is having all 3 boxes to a panerai collector. im feeling pretty about a deal I'm about to make but would like to hear your input. Thanks

Pam219 (Pam382; Pam112 & Rolex GMT MasterII - formerly owned)
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July 17th, 2012, 8:53 am #2

the pearwood is something Iwant to have
the blue cardboad is nice to have but not a must

Insisting that you want the grey cardboard is just INSANE

Do we buy watches or stupid boxes ?

Tha watch and papers is the most important

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July 17th, 2012, 9:51 am #3

their panerai watches w/o an outer cardboard box? How important is having all 3 boxes to a panerai collector. im feeling pretty about a deal I'm about to make but would like to hear your input. Thanks

Pam219 (Pam382; Pam112 & Rolex GMT MasterII - formerly owned)
Sorry mate but I disagree.

Pearwood box is a musthave, and so is the the black outerbox, it's where my AD puts the label with the movement info etc.

The outer brown cardboard box is a nice extra, and something extra to put in your sales add...if you're never gonna gonna sell, it's worthless!
When I bought my first panny in 2003, I was the first one who asked for it at my AD.
I explained how I saw it...he's keeping all of them ever since.

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July 17th, 2012, 10:47 am #4

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July 17th, 2012, 11:19 am #5

As a collector I like to have the watch & the packaging it left the factory in.

This is then what I would consider complete - regardless of a future sale or not.

I wouldn't consider myself insane... yet! A few more years of PAM-addiction will see to that!

Just my 2...

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July 17th, 2012, 2:18 pm #6

Sorry mate but I disagree.

Pearwood box is a musthave, and so is the the black outerbox, it's where my AD puts the label with the movement info etc.

The outer brown cardboard box is a nice extra, and something extra to put in your sales add...if you're never gonna gonna sell, it's worthless!
When I bought my first panny in 2003, I was the first one who asked for it at my AD.
I explained how I saw it...he's keeping all of them ever since.

T.
In my opinion it also says something about the seller who cared for the piece enough to keep everything it came with. I would be hesitant to purchase a piece that wasn't complete...but that's just me.

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gfriedell
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July 17th, 2012, 5:32 pm #7

their panerai watches w/o an outer cardboard box? How important is having all 3 boxes to a panerai collector. im feeling pretty about a deal I'm about to make but would like to hear your input. Thanks

Pam219 (Pam382; Pam112 & Rolex GMT MasterII - formerly owned)
It was that way for many years. They may have changed because Paneristi get uptight about not having that box. It was always considered a shipping box. It main purpose was to protect the black cardboard and pear wood boxes. It's nice to have as protection if you store the original boxes, but I personally feel it's value is minimal at best. It's perceived value stems from the fact that sellers on the Paneristi sales fora started hyping their sales ads with "triple boxed" to make their offering seem better.




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machtigetokus
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July 17th, 2012, 6:50 pm #8

the pearwood is something Iwant to have
the blue cardboad is nice to have but not a must

Insisting that you want the grey cardboard is just INSANE

Do we buy watches or stupid boxes ?

Tha watch and papers is the most important

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wanne see more watch pictures ? http://www.bruno-wristwatches.blogspot.com/
Actually threw away few paper outerboxes away myself knowing full well that other people put value on them....Keep them nowadays though, just to have, if I ever need to sell something...

Cheers, Joris

***Lo, comandante del tempo***
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hayseedbrown
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July 17th, 2012, 8:12 pm #9

because you may have to one day sell, you are actually disagreeing with Bruno and supporting the fact that the 3 boxes are important. Anything OEM that people collect is important.
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July 17th, 2012, 8:21 pm #10

It was that way for many years. They may have changed because Paneristi get uptight about not having that box. It was always considered a shipping box. It main purpose was to protect the black cardboard and pear wood boxes. It's nice to have as protection if you store the original boxes, but I personally feel it's value is minimal at best. It's perceived value stems from the fact that sellers on the Paneristi sales fora started hyping their sales ads with "triple boxed" to make their offering seem better.




"But sometimes when you bring the thunder, you get lost in the storm." K.P.



is for no other than the simple reason that it is sought after by (some) people who collect Panerai. When I was dealing in firearms (some light buying/selling when I lived in the Southern US), buyers used to get bent out of shape if their Smith & Wesson didn't come with the brown 2 inch square of paper that came with the gun. Completely useless, and you can get the same piece of paper for about 5 cents, but they just wanted the OEM one. I thought it was silly, but I kept all my brown paper nonetheless.
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machtigetokus
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July 17th, 2012, 10:06 pm #11

because you may have to one day sell, you are actually disagreeing with Bruno and supporting the fact that the 3 boxes are important. Anything OEM that people collect is important.
It is only the pearwood and the black boxes that I like to have.... I do not care about the third box for myself. That I believe I agree with Bruno..... Just holding on to third box now for the person that potentially does care ( even though I dont and believe he shouldnt either....)

Cheers, Joris

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July 17th, 2012, 10:29 pm #12

their panerai watches w/o an outer cardboard box? How important is having all 3 boxes to a panerai collector. im feeling pretty about a deal I'm about to make but would like to hear your input. Thanks

Pam219 (Pam382; Pam112 & Rolex GMT MasterII - formerly owned)
I have purchased watches second hand from guys on this forum who originally purchased the watch over seas, they never had the outer cardboard.

It is just a worthless shipping box, lets face the facts. How can you put value on that, especially if the watch came that way from a AD?

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July 17th, 2012, 11:50 pm #13

their panerai watches w/o an outer cardboard box? How important is having all 3 boxes to a panerai collector. im feeling pretty about a deal I'm about to make but would like to hear your input. Thanks

Pam219 (Pam382; Pam112 & Rolex GMT MasterII - formerly owned)
I bought 4 PAMs since 2004 from an Italian AD in northern Italy (collected, not shipped to me) and I only ever received the outer cardboard box with the last one (June this year).

He gave it to me saying that he used to throw them away but customers seem to want them, but also that the sticker that Panerai used to put on the black outer box is now put onto the outside of the 'shipping' cardboard box.

Clive

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July 18th, 2012, 1:25 am #14

It was that way for many years. They may have changed because Paneristi get uptight about not having that box. It was always considered a shipping box. It main purpose was to protect the black cardboard and pear wood boxes. It's nice to have as protection if you store the original boxes, but I personally feel it's value is minimal at best. It's perceived value stems from the fact that sellers on the Paneristi sales fora started hyping their sales ads with "triple boxed" to make their offering seem better.




"But sometimes when you bring the thunder, you get lost in the storm." K.P.



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gfriedell
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July 18th, 2012, 2:49 pm #15


I was speaking in the past tense. In the old days, up until around 2004 I've never seen one from Portofino or Firenze ( the Italian boutiques) that came with a brown box. Many of us never even knew that box existed for a while because the boutiques threw them out after receiving them at the boutique. The first time I even knew about the brown box was when I saw a watch being advertised as "complete" because it had the brown box. The US AD I knew would give it to you if you asked, but shook their head like if you were asking for the plastic bags that a new shirt was shipped in from the manufacturer.




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July 20th, 2012, 1:32 am #16

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