Comparing PAM 249 with the new PAM 448 (SIHH 2012)

Comparing PAM 249 with the new PAM 448 (SIHH 2012)

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January 20th, 2012, 3:01 pm #1

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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January 20th, 2012, 3:11 pm #2


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January 20th, 2012, 3:24 pm #3

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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January 20th, 2012, 3:27 pm #4

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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Been waiting for this comparison article Asi. Thanks much.Great stuff<nt>
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January 20th, 2012, 3:39 pm #5

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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And looking forward to your thoughts on the PAM399....

Good to see you this week...

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January 20th, 2012, 3:49 pm #6

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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January 20th, 2012, 3:49 pm #7

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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Btw on the last photo, 448 on the left and 249 on the right.

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January 20th, 2012, 3:54 pm #8

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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This is definitely my favorte SIHH 2012 piece, I really hope I can score one as I missed the Cali last time...

Thanks again for the report


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January 20th, 2012, 3:56 pm #9

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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Btw, is the dial of the 448 with 'L SWISS L" insribed at the bottom..?

Thanks Asi..


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January 20th, 2012, 4:08 pm #10

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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January 20th, 2012, 4:12 pm #11

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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January 20th, 2012, 4:13 pm #12

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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January 20th, 2012, 4:18 pm #13

Btw, is the dial of the 448 with 'L SWISS L" insribed at the bottom..?

Thanks Asi..


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448 has an engraved Chapter ring, 249 doesn't and the text engraved into the cases between lugs is different.
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January 20th, 2012, 4:19 pm #14

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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Thank you Asi.
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January 20th, 2012, 4:23 pm #15

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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January 20th, 2012, 4:25 pm #16

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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1. 249: L Swiss Made L in the bottom, while 448: L Swiss L
2. On one side of the case, there is an engraving: 249 (Opus Facere) vs. 448 (Vintage)
3. Inside the case on top of the 12 o'clock, there is an inscription of "California" on the 448 while nothing on the 249.

Of course, thats only based on my observation before seeing the actual 448 for the public later.

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January 20th, 2012, 4:26 pm #17

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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January 20th, 2012, 4:31 pm #19

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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This really helps to see how they are differ, Million Thanks

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January 20th, 2012, 4:36 pm #20

Last week I had the chance to compare these two models, the PAM 249, SE introduced at SIHH 2006 in 1936 pcs., and the PAM 448, SE introduced at SIHH 2012 in 500 pcs. The watches are quite similar: California dial, Plexiglass tropic and sapphire caseback. The differences are mostly due to the use of the in-house caliber P.3000 instead of the OP X (ETA 6497).






The Dial


PAM 448 (on the right) has a 'faded black' dial, vintage style. The color of the indices is identical with a very light faux patina. While the hands are the same size, the train ring on the 448 is painted a bit closer to the edge of the dial resulting in the wrong initial impression that the hands are shorter.







The Case


Due to the thickness of the P.3000 movement (5.3mm) the PAM 448 case is thicker than the PAM 249's which houses the 4.5mm thick ETA. The 448 case is a measured ~8mm compared to the 249 at 6.75mm. The caseback ring is also substantially thicker on the 448. The 448 crown has the 'logo' rather than the 'OP' on the 249 crown.


PAM 448 top, PAM 249 bottom








The Movement


One could argue that the ETA with its CDG finish has a more historic look (618 style) albeit the P.3000 is an exclusive movement with a longer PR.


PAM 249 right, PAM 448 left






Conclusion? Two fantastic historic PAMs, both are winners in my book








Cheers and best from the holyland,

~Asi~



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