What is the average length of the spear (?) an atlatl would throw?

counterWULF
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July 10th, 2018, 2:48 pm #1

I'm new to the world of atlatls, so I might not be using the correct terminology. I'm designing a logo that will incorporate a spear and an atlatl/spear and I want to make sure I have the size proportions and ratios down when they are side by side. I've already read on this forum that atlatl handle lengths vary but are somewhere on average of maybe 24". How long on average is the projectile (spear?) that you would throw with a 24" atlatl?

I'm designing a crest logo that will symbolize many things (to me) and will represent primitive humans and their relationship/bond with wolves and later dogs. I've spoken with an anthropologist (Pat Shipman from Penn State University, author of "The Invaders: How Humans and Their Dogs Drove Neanderthals to Extinction") to confirm that the primary hunting weapons used nearly worldwide at the time of the wolf-to-dog domestication process was the spear and atlatl. I want to pay homage to those early humans and what they've done for all future generations by giving us our "best friends" the dog in my overall crest design logo. This is a project for my Ambassador Wolf Educational Outreach project named counterWULF. My goal is to educate the public about that original connection and domestication and clear up misconceptions about wolves through conflict resolution and hands-on interaction with high content wolfdogs. Attached is my foundation animal, my low content wolfdog: Sir BEOWULF the Brave. 
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July 15th, 2018, 6:09 pm #2

Darts are usually about 5 to 7 feet.  Give or take.
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Tomas
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July 16th, 2018, 1:00 am #3

Hello

Here are some resources that might give some perspective as to the ‘average ‘ length of an atlatl dart. One is a 10,000 year old dart of 42” length...the other is a dart launched from a woomera that is of greater length.




www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2010/07/m ... weapon6135

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July 16th, 2018, 1:18 am #4

Hello

Concerning the bond between humanity and nature’s children like the wolf here are some interesting resources.....

Romeo the Wolf





Christian the Lion



Eagle Huntress

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July 17th, 2018, 7:19 pm #5

Hello

Here is a suggestion...of all the atlatl types the Australian ‘Woomera’ May be the most versatile... it is used by the Aboriginal People as a sort of Swiss Army Knife of spear throwers.

It’s shape allows it to act as a bowl for food/water, a shield, a war club/sword/machete/ and firesaw/fireboard. You do not get more utilities from one object than that.

Here is another novel suggestion....use the darts one carries as tent support poles and stakes and you have shelter covered as well.

http://www.leicestergalleries.com/19th- ... alia/10345

All The Best

Tomas

PS A cricket bat would make a decent starting place for a Woomera...these are a dime a dozen at second hand stores.
For comparison.....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket ... at_art.jpg
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July 18th, 2018, 2:58 pm #6

You guys are offering great info. I appreciate it. I'll write back when I have a little more time. 

Glad you (Tomas) know about Romeo the wolf. I have all of the books about him and have talked to the people whose dogs used to play with Romeo out on the glacier, mainly Harry Robinson and his dog Brittain, who was Romeo's favorite friend out on the ice. Great story and very rare for a wolf to approach humans on that level. It's a story I want everyone to know about, as most wolves will not react in such a manner due to human persecution of their kind.

Here is my entire "pack":
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