Oak bark tanned deer hide and alum tanned hocks. Finally a wee tinder pouch

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Oak bark tanned deer hide and alum tanned hocks. Finally a wee tinder pouch

monikieman
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April 23rd, 2018, 10:40 pm #1

I'd love to say it's been easier than I thought, but.....well I got there!

Oak bark tanned roe doe hide.  Slabbered with lard/tallow but then had to damp it back with water/oil/soap emulsion to soften further.

Hocks were alum tanned and softened.  They're quiet small so a little difficult but hey-ho.

So, a nice wee tinder pouch. hand stitched with a tacking stitch and then whip stitch back over that. 011 (431x600).jpg 011 (431x600).jpg
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April 24th, 2018, 3:56 pm #2

where can I get bulk ALUM ? It cost so much at the pharmacy ! Nice job ! Did Mountain Men carry these  type pouches ?
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April 24th, 2018, 5:34 pm #3

I just had to go to eBay for Alum.  Depends where you are. In States I think it's a type of plant fertiliser. Different here in Scotland.  Don't know where they originted but looks mountain man enough for me :)
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April 24th, 2018, 7:52 pm #4

Thanks ! Scotland ? Wow ! Do you have small deer there or are they like our whitetail deer ?
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April 24th, 2018, 10:27 pm #5

Smll I'm afraid buy very tasty on the BBQ :)    10 to 25kg for does.
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April 24th, 2018, 11:55 pm #6

monikieman wrote: Smll I'm afraid buy very tasty on the BBQ :)    10 to 25kg for does.
wow deer.JPG , thats about 55 pounds USA. Kinda small, but you say tasty on the BBQ ! Ours are quite a bit bigger.
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April 24th, 2018, 11:59 pm #7

Aye that's true.  Gotta make do with what you've got.  Might have a red deer coming.  That's a bit bigger 200lbs to 400lbs!!!!! but will cost a bottle of whisky :)
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April 26th, 2018, 3:13 am #8

I like the work on that bag..Nice work!!!Posted one like it a while back.
Iowa bucks get plenty big.This one weighed 385#'s.Gotten with a winged elm self bow and a dogwood arrow.His hide brain tanned and smoked out to 14 square feet.
I'll be the first to admit though things like that don't near happen every year.Especially with primitive equipment.Usually a doe or 2 is the normal year.
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April 26th, 2018, 5:24 pm #9

Nice buck. Nice arrow, quiver & bow. You made them ? Wow !
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April 26th, 2018, 7:54 pm #10

Thank you.It's not the norm to get a shot like this every year though.Yes everything was made by me.
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April 26th, 2018, 9:48 pm #11

Sweet !
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April 27th, 2018, 2:43 am #12

I like that Hock pouch....monikieman. Very nice. Ive got several elk hocks Ive got to get some tan into before making something similar...or different.

I would say Google Alum , blancoh0. I know you can buy it in either 1 pound bags at Walmart for making pickles. But ...I am sure its available in other places. A Taxidermy supply house for sure. I bought a couple 1 # bags marked down at Walmart the end of the summer season for 50 cents a bag. The pickle kind...same stuff...just very pure. Quills
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April 27th, 2018, 2:45 am #13

Beadman...nice bow and arrows and quiver.

Nice Buck to. What county in Iowa was that gotten in?
They get some big ones here around me at times as well. Quills
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April 27th, 2018, 10:00 am #14

Alum is not so cheap here.  About £8 a kilo!!!!!
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April 27th, 2018, 12:20 pm #15

Quills.....I live in Wayne county by the Missouri border.It has a pretty high population of deer per square mile.
monikieman....If there are any taxidermists in your area aluminum sulfate from them here is'nt very expensive.
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April 28th, 2018, 2:17 pm #16

I just Googled Alum. The cheapest I could find is 5 pounds for $19.95 with free shipping. Thats $3.99 a pound . from Pa Dutch Shoppes of Virginia (on Amazon ) . Hopes this helps you tanners !
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July 4th, 2018, 10:32 pm #17

Bulk Alum
www.vandykestaxidermy.com
They have bulk alum. Aluminum and postassium.
That's where I buy all my tanning supplies.


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July 13th, 2018, 10:46 pm #18

Nice job on tanning and sewing.   Dewclaw bags were made and used by Native American women, most often to hold berries or chokecherries.   I haven't found any evidence of mountain men carrying them.  The dewclaw bags I've seen did not have brain tan buckskin tops that could be closed off with draw strings but I've made bags from moose, elk, deer, and antelope (no dewclaws) some with buckskin uppers and others without.   Alum tanning the leg skins is easier than brain tanning them.   I like your bark tanned roe deer leather bag  bottom.   Must have been hard to sew and trim the hock skins evenly.
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July 14th, 2018, 6:29 am #19

beardedhorse wrote: Nice job on tanning and sewing.   Dewclaw bags were made and used by Native American women, most often to hold berries or chokecherries.   I haven't found any evidence of mountain men carrying them.  The dewclaw bags I've seen did not have brain tan buckskin tops that could be closed off with draw strings but I've made bags from moose, elk, deer, and antelope (no dewclaws) some with buckskin uppers and others without.   Alum tanning the leg skins is easier than brain tanning them.   I like your bark tanned roe deer leather bag  bottom.   Must have been hard to sew and trim the hock skins evenly.
thanks for the info beardedhorse.  I suppose I'm more of a berry collector than a mountainman anyway!!! Can't walk past free food :)   The bottom was a bit difficult but It somehow worked out.   Cheers:)
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