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08 Sep 2017, 21:25 #161

Back to trade knives.

One thing forgotten about the carbon steel version of the Opinel.
The spine is perfect for striking a ferro rod.
Think of the perfect flint spark when ferro rod is mentioned.
You could submerge that rod for twenty four hours and
it would spark like lightning when you take it out.
Flint fire making is great and I hope one day to actually make a fire.
I have raised a few sparks. Until then a ferro rod works like a charm.

On to Mora of Sweden.
The basic birch handled Mora knife is still only fourteen dollars.
Sharp as an Opinel which is saying something.
The Opinel is thinner so sharpens up easily but needs sharpening more frequently than the Mora. The Mora is thicker,sharpens up almost as easily and stays sharper longer.

As said the Opinel is by far the prettier knife.
The Mora is base in that it is primitive looking.
But that is it's charm. It's a working or camp knife.
Both are trade knives or at least I consider them so.

I loaned a basic Mora to a guy going on a survival workshop.
Five weeks in the deep woods. He was going to go buy a twenty dollar knife worth nothing.
I pulled out my Mora and said he could borrow it.
I wanted to touch up the edge but he said it was razor sharp.
A tribute to the knife not my sharpening.

He dressed a bear with it while there.
In fact the knife came back to me with traces of bear still on it.
I kid you not,physical matter. The guy will never get a knife from me again but
I am glad he had a knife to see him through. And the Mora in question?
It still has dark discolorations on the carbon steel.
They will be left there to remind me to be more careful with my knives. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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I am going to pull that Mora out and touch up the edge.
Knives in storage appreciate sharp interest in their well being.ย 

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09 Sep 2017, 01:25 #162

Sas is a very old word.
French as far as I know but it has the same definition in Dutch.
They refer to it as a Lock or gate. It has another meaning though.
In English it is a Sally port which leads to a Sally room in a Fort.
The French definition I know of has the exact same meaning.
A door leading to a room where personnel can enter then
be scrutinised before being allowed into the main area.
Prisons use them and so do intrusion alarm centrals where I first encountered the term.
The location of an alarm central is a closely guarded secret.
Most technicians employed by the company do not know where it is.
If a central were compromised then thieves would know the alarms they caused
would not be communicated to the police.

The Mohawks had a Sas of sorts.
A long passage with narrow turns in it where
people overhead could look down,inspect who was coming in and
dump rocks on their heads if the situation demanded it.
Can you say ouch? ๐Ÿ˜ฃ

You can see a Sas in a dated science fiction flick called Damnation Alley.
It is in a military installation. You see it in the first five minutes.
It is free on Youtube.

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09 Sep 2017, 09:06 #163

Dogs are peculiar beasts.
Tracker in particular is peculiar.
Mostly because he puts up with me. ๐Ÿ˜‰

But the main peculiarity in dogs is their nose. Dogs live in their nose.
By that I mean their main source of sensory input is their nose.
We all know that or most of us do. But I'm betting not many people
have told their dogs that they live in their nose. ๐Ÿค”
Not many bets me. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Dogs have a couple of anal glands near their,you guessed it,their backside?
Did you think I was going to say anus? ๐Ÿค”

Anyway dogs wag their tails to allow wafting scents to
wend their ways into our hearts so to speak.
Unfortunately we don't live in our nose. ๐Ÿ˜ถ
Good thing too. ๐Ÿค” Imagine the constant house cleaning. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
If we could detect the state of being the dog was in we may be able to stop attacks by dogs.
Whether about to attack us with love or their teeth both are to be avoided.
Dogs can be so sloppy when expressing their love and
their more toothy expressions are painful to say the least.

So practice your butt sniffing folks.
The life you save may be your own. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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The dog in the photo below is an ancient breed called Woofus BikeAlotus

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09 Sep 2017, 13:06 #164

OK. I was gonna let you have your mourning coffee where you mourned over the fact that you forgot to buy coffee. ๐Ÿ˜‘ But this youtube video burned my beans. ๐Ÿ˜ถ
It involved self defence for the elderly or disabled.

The main weapon of choice was a quad cane.
The cane that has four feet in a square pattern to aid in stability.
The first thing Mister Brilliant does is lift the cane off the ground and use it like a prod.
Yep,you sure want to poke someone with four rubber cushions thereby handing them
a grip better than yours. And you may not be all that strong or stable.
Then you can be yanked off your feet and beaten with your own cane. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
Oh the ignominy of it all. ๐Ÿ˜ถ

I could go on focussing on the negative and be counterproductive.
You know I have a good eye for what is right and wrong in videos.ย ๐Ÿค”
I may not always be right but am not often wrong. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Let us look at the positive and
hope the video will get lost in the great miasma that is YouBoob. ๐Ÿ˜‰

To end on an even more positive note.
The pleasant young people who invaded my personal domain,
the only cushioned seat at Tim Horton's,
have now left. ๐Ÿ˜€

It is a good thing too as they didn't seem to be able to afford food or beverages though their useage of smart phones and tablets utilising free WiFi is evidence to the contrary. Why is it a good thing they left?
I was going to offer to buy them treats. ๐Ÿ˜‰

You may now return to your mourning coffee. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Here is a pic' of the delightful youths.
Oh gawd somehow it got posted upside down. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Kinda like the askew values of today.

And the thumb that is in the way?
That is one of them giving me the digit. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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09 Sep 2017, 20:38 #165

Want to see how a Mora style knife is forged?
Ray Mears bushcraft part three.

It is in Sweden the home of Mora knives.
Now the bladesmith making the knife is using mostly traditional methods.
From harvesting evergreens to make the charcoal and the forge used,
as close to trad' as possible. I know a modern buffer is used and probably there is an electric fan on the forge but the idea is there. It is evident this guy is no modern wannabe.
The knife made resembles the basic Mora though it is a laminated blade,
which Mora makes but is more expensive.
Better for you to see the technique than
to waste time on my blather.

All the parts of this series are outstanding in their own right.
Well worth a look.

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A teaser pic' utilising KooKoo Yuku as the host.ย 

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10 Sep 2017, 07:32 #166

Are there Preppers on PaleoPlanet?
The answer to that question may be yes. Why is that being brought up?
Because of all the weirdness in the world at this present time.
Let's face it,people at least in big cities are pretty stressed out.
Some out in the sticks as well I bet.

But I think most of us are down to earth folks.
Maybe we do "Prep" by learning to be self reliant but Prepping isn't our goal.
An example of the stress out there may be the whording of .22 LR ammo.
This brought on by the shortage. But why is there that shortage?
Apparently because there are a lot more rifles that shoot .22.
So what happens is that .22 ammo becomes harder to get.
Then you get price gougers who buy the ammo to resell online for
an exorbitant mark up which drives the price up for everday shooters.
That instigates whorders to whorde and Preppers to
think there is all the more reason to prepare thereby
kinda making them into whorders as well.

What am I going to do about the .22 shortage?
Well my go to gun/archery store is on the local reserve.
The owners are pretty smart cookies and have all the ammo I want or need.
The Reserve is across a bridge that just aint bike friendly and
is out of my range for now.

So until there is reason to go there by car
I am going to go buy the only .22 LR good for my rifle within biking distance.
There is a box of one hundred available within ten minutes from my home.
Really that may even be all that is needed. So I am going to think on it a bit.
How much would be needed where I want to go. How close would a gun shop be.
Issues like that. I kinda like plinking and am good at off hand shooting.
My rifle is a Remington Nylon 66 in Mohawk brown.
The most accurate shooting rifle on this planet. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Well it can outshoot me anyway. ๐Ÿค—

Twelve or thirteen rounds in the butt mag' and it is good to go.
Open sights but that may change with my aging eyes especially for semi serious hunting.

Aside from ammo what else will be necessary for a better life.
A way to prepare simple foods and learning to cook those foods.
Kinda what I like to do anyway. ๐Ÿค— Sure there is more to it than ammo and food.
But small steps get me where I want to go. And where I want to go is plinking then
off to the kitchen to warm up some baked beans. ๐Ÿ˜‰

See you in the Wild

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10 Sep 2017, 09:50 #167

Supper was two rare lamb burgers on preservative free toasted cheddar cheese buns.
Chipotlรฉ hot sauce for a condiment with sliced tomato on the side.
It was supposed to be cherries for afters but glossette raisins
snuk their way into eating range purely by mistake. ๐Ÿค—

Tonite the rest of the ground lamb will be added to storebought jarred spaghetti sauce.
Lamb is my favorite domesticated meat as it has more flavor to it and
is relatively the same price as ย beef.

See you in the Wild

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10 Sep 2017, 12:37 #168

Tracker got a nice pizza crust this morning. ๐Ÿ˜€
Then being in a hurry to get out the door,
I forgot to give him his med's. ๐Ÿค—

No biggy as I will wend my way back there in the A.M..
That Mora knife got a touch up. All the good stones are
packed so one that was left out was used.
The knife complained grittily and refused to cut stone.
Really it is a poor stone. Though a resurfacing may be all it needs.
A plate of glass,waterproof sandpaper laid flat on it's wet surface and away you go.

The edge felt hard,harder than the Opinel.
Difficult to tell unless sharpened one after the other.
If you want a wide range of prices with quality a given
then Ragnar's Ragweed Forge is the place to go.
Ragnar seems an honest man. His site not just a money making proposition.
His intro page explains his philosophy.

You can get your basic Mora there for fourteen bucks.
The other end of the scale is available as well.
Every penny you spend reflected by the quality of the blade.
And you can buy just the blade there.
A lot of knife making kits too.

Ragnar can't ship to Canada anymore. He actually apologises for it.
There can be snaffus in international trade.
Really I have more knives than my immediate descendants need.
Those to come after that can look after themselves. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Off to ride my bike soon.
Maybe pick up some dark maple syrup.
Dark is a new grade for me. Usually #2 is my choice.
The best grade is too darn sweet.
Mine tastes of the root and earth.
Just that hint of the root in root beer.
So Dark it is hoping it is tastier still.

See you in the Wild

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11 Sep 2017, 06:01 #169

The secret has been leaked. Some dufus at Apple has tried to scuttle their plans or at least it appears to be the case. Who knows for sure these days? And the technology is such a neat idea as well.

And I quote, "It also details facial recognition tech that acts both as an ID system and maps users' expressions onto emojis." Yep what I was thinking but way better.๐Ÿค”
Which is usually the case. ๐Ÿ˜‰ But do we really want a tech' that interprets what we think?
After all it is not even guessing only approximating or even faking. Why trust a faker?
I mean we have never met the Technicians who thought this up but will trust them to
express ourselves. Now there is a good side to this. Maybe it can be adapted for those whose physical or mental deformity causes them to not be able to physically express themselves.

Think burn victims or sufferers of autism. Yes what I am saying appears unclear.
We never know where technology will lead us. ๐Ÿค” Perhaps it will one day unlock one tiny puzzle in the makeup of autism. Intelligent expressionless children drawn out of
themselves,learning to express their true emotions by what they see.
Maybe not but I have hope. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

See you in the Wild.

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11 Sep 2017, 11:39 #170

On today's bill of fare.

Scottish bannock

As far as I know bannock is a Scottish word.
Though the word bannock and it's origin's may be a mystery.
All I know is what I read. My Indian friends claim the name for their own.
The issue may be that they claim a somewhat similar dish to be their's.
And it certainly is. A further issue may be that I read about life but they live it.

I have made this recipรฉ once before.
This time Ray Mears will make a contribution to the mix.
In that I will make it in a preheated metal pan.
His being steel and mine cast iron.

No camp fire in my backyard this time though.
The locals just do not appreciate the Fine Arts. ๐Ÿค—

I may add heated canned pumpkin purรฉe instead of the hot water.
The jury is still out on that. I am unsure of pumpkin and oatmeal marrying well.
Maybe it will work with cinnamon as a marriage counsellor. ๐Ÿ˜‰
What do you think? ๐Ÿค”

See you in the Wild.

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My oatmeal is not true oatmeal it is flakes.
I may remember presoaking them overnight to soften the flakes. ๐Ÿค”
Whatever,I recall the loaf made was great if a bit chewy. ๐Ÿ˜€
4 oz (125g) medium oatmealย 
2 teaspoons melted fat (bacon fat, if available)ย 
2 pinches of bicarbonate of sodaย 
Pinch of saltย 
3/4 tablespoons hot waterย 
Additional oatmeal for kneading
Mix the oatmeal, salt and bicarbonate and pour in the melted fat into the centre of the mixture. Stir well, using a porridge stick if you have one and add enough water to make into a stiff paste. Cover a surface in oatmeal and turn the mixture onto this. Work quickly as the paste is difficult to work if it cools. Divide into two and roll one half into a ball and knead with hands covered in oatmeal to stop it sticking. Roll out to around quarter inch thick. Put a plate which is slightly smaller than the size of your pan over the flattened mixture and cut round to leave a circular oatcake. Cut into quarters (also called farls) and place in a heated pan which has been lightly greased. Cook for about 3 minutes until the edges curl slightly, turn, and cook the other side. Get ready with another oatcake while the first is being cooked.
An alternative method of cooking is to bake them in an oven at Gas5/375F/190C for about 30 minutes or until brown at the edges. The quantities above will be enough for two bannocks about the size of a dessert plate. If you want more, do them in batches rather than making larger quantities of mixture. Store in a tin and reheat in a moderate oven when required.

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12 Sep 2017, 11:51 #171

Well crappola,Yuku doesn't like me today,
and proved it's displeasure by refusing to load my Ray Mears Video. ๐Ÿ˜ถ
The fact that Yuku is a business not a sentient entity does not assuage my anger.
As that foreign ruler from England would say,"We are not amused". ๐Ÿ˜‘

So I rode down to Tim Horton's saying hello to two very good looking local women.
The fact that one had four children in tow,a very big husband and
the other was young enough to be my daughter did not bother me at all.
Them wimmens was interested. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Darn it all those positive happenings ruined my mood. ๐Ÿ˜ถ
Better not ride my bike anymore today. I might break out in a smile. ๐Ÿ˜†

See you in the Wild.

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Below is a teaser pic' from that Ray Mears video.
I will try posting it later on. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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12 Sep 2017, 12:31 #172

You didn't expect for my good mood to last forever did you?
Well you were wrong whatever you thought. ๐Ÿ˜‰

There was this video on Youtube.
It was wondering why people freezing to death hid themselves. ๐Ÿค”
Well that was hard to figure out. ๐Ÿ™„ I mean if we isolate factors and
eliminate the extraneous then the possible solution is evident.
Notice I said possible. It's only a theory. ๐Ÿค”

O.K. freezing to death. Eliminate freezing and you have an animal that is dying.
It is not important,except to the animal,how it is dying.
Lots of animals hide themselves when death is imminent.
We do see dead animals but rarely.
I think the only ones we do see died on the spot.
We see mice on the trail occasionaly but not much else.

I think animals hide themselves for simple reasons really.
Maybe to feel enclosed thereby warm and protected.
Perhaps they are afraid on an instinctual level of being eaten while still alive.
We may never know. But is there a way to determine this by experiment?
A wild animal in a large enclosure with sensors upon it.
Maybe only passive sensors such as infrared detectors.
When natural death slowly steals upon it and it hides,
we may be able to see changes such as a modicum of relief.
Maybe a lowering of cortisal level.
Anyway Scientists are very good at such stuff.
I just theorise a lot. ๐Ÿค”

Hmmm,I feel funny.๐Ÿค”
Cold all of a sudden and fearful. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
Is that angels singing?ย ๐Ÿ˜‡๐Ÿ˜‡๐Ÿ˜‡๐Ÿ˜‡
Coming lord,wait for me. ย ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
As soon as I finish my coffee. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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12 Sep 2017, 21:48 #173

While you were waiting for that Ray Mears video I had supper. ๐Ÿ˜€
Not as tasty as Ray's but close. ๐Ÿ˜Š

I had canned,refried beans and he had fresh baked crawdads. ๐Ÿค”...........๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”..........๐Ÿ˜ถ
Come to think of it old Ray is a stinker that doesn't like to share. ๐Ÿ˜‰
But I will share his video with you. Type in Ray Mears demonstration trapping crawfish.

As always there is a teaser pic' or two below.

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13 Sep 2017, 10:51 #174

Driving my car today,๐Ÿ˜ถ
from one side of the street to the other. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Those pesky parking laws have to be obeyed. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Last night was the opening of my Wynter archery club.
Rode over by bicycle for the first time.
It did the enviroment,car and my waistline a world of good.

I am the lowest of the low there being your basic volunteer.
One year they wanted me for V.P. but everyone should do
what they are best suited to do.

The first night and I was hoping for an easy one.
Six kids and two adults had other ideas on the subject. ๐Ÿ˜†
We are a teaching club. Our sole reason for being is to teach children.
Adults are allowed to shoot as long as they don't hamper the kids.
Most grown-ups are adult about it. Some adults just aint too grown-up. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Anyway the V.P. came up to me and asked what to do.
He is new it being his first year. I am old,beat up and tired. ๐Ÿ˜ถ
So of course I volunteered to teach them all. ๐Ÿ˜€

They got told that we would hold an informal lesson.
I just didn't have the gumption to teach three groups. ๐Ÿค—
So the basics were gone over about dominant eye and all
the other crap sometimes of little use to a traditional archer.
But most of those new archers will go on to become compound shooters.๐Ÿ˜ถ
Unless I can disuade them of course. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Then the V.P. tells me I have forgotten a few things about safety.
Safety is crucial to me as it should be to everyone.
That is why I teach it last so it is fresh in their minds when they first shoot.
I get cantankerous when interrupted. Especially by people
who didn't know what to do in the first place. ๐Ÿ˜‰

But it all got done and that is what is important.
More volunteers showed up including the secretary who told all the new archers
to show up on our first night when all the staff wouldn't be there yet. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Thoughtful guy is our secretary. ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ™„๐Ÿค”

Eight new archers were taught the basics.
One old flattus got to sit down in a chair and watch them shoot.
My children each and every one including the adults.
Children of the bow.ย 

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13 Sep 2017, 16:12 #175

I've been bow-fishing for big (25#) Buffalo fish.ย  Related to Carp.ย  Heads like coconuts.
They school up like herds of bison, thousands at a time.ย  Last Mountain Lake, SK.
Bass-ackward water skiing = hit one, sit down and the fish tows the boat around.

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13 Sep 2017, 18:31 #176

Now that is cool as can be.
I have only ever bow-fished once and that was in my compound bow days.
Nothing against compound bows. I would shoot one tomorrow if a
Golden Eagle bow showed up. I shot one forty metres using fingers.
Three shots in a six inch margarine tub lid. My buddy who knows about
such things said it was as good as somebody shooting with a trigger release.

Never seen a buffalo fish but then I never saw a fruit fly either. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Do you eat bufflers? What about smoking them? ๐Ÿค”

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I google imaged Robson Valley plus buffalo fish and angled me a couple of gooduns.

It must be said,๐Ÿค”
The yellow hoodie doesn't do you justice. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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13 Sep 2017, 23:22 #177

Those are hilarious!ย  Yeah we rigged up a smoker from some new trash cans and brined the fish chunks for 24 hrs first.
Alder smoke for 2 days turned out pretty good.ย  Battered & deep fried some, it was OK too.
Compound bow with a reel, 400# braided line, solid aluminum arrows and threaded Muzzy points.
For anything 20# and bigger, you get them up beside the boat then get their attention with a length of 1.5" iron pipe.
Utter tackle busters alive in the boat.ย  Clean them with a handsaw.

I timed it = went out in the boat with brother shooting and back with 40# cleaned and headed fish in 5 minutes.

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14 Sep 2017, 11:35 #178

You mean you whack them poor fishies over the head? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
Better than them wrecking the boat. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Off to the Bulk Barn today.
There is a coupon for thirty percent off with many items already fifteen percent off.
Do you even have a Bulk Barn near you? Dried foods mostly. Lots with preservatives which I don't understand. ๐Ÿค” I mean they are dried therefor preserved,there is no need for chemicals. But profits speak loudest these days. We will learn,๐Ÿค”one way๐Ÿ˜ƒor the other. ๐Ÿ˜ถ

Let us be posiive.
There are a few products that are chemical free.
Most of the herbs are pristine. There is pasta that is acceptable as well.
Almond butter,melasse(molasses) and a few other goodies.

I fool myself that this is a gathering of supplies for the upcoming Wynter.
Herbs to flavor pallid meats,nut spreads for protein when the meat runs out,
maybe soup mixes when the nuts run out.

Hey it keeps me off the streets and out of jail. ๐Ÿ˜‰

There is a certain goverment office that will get visited today as well.
They take my money,give nothing in return and
threaten to take my car if I don't pay up. ๐Ÿ˜ถ

Mostly I am paying off the only parking ticket of this biking Season.
Usually there are at least a few. Trying to park on my own street is often impossible. ๐Ÿค—
According to the budget and my evil plan the bike has to be ridden a further eleven days
to make up for it.

Life can be so hard sometimes. ๐Ÿ™„

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14 Sep 2017, 11:56 #179

Well urinate me off,a word I didn't know.
"si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice"

The word circumspice in that sentence of utter and complete jabber.
I mean you would think they would let a dead language die. ๐Ÿ˜‰

(Oops excuse me for a moment,Pink is singing.)
She has odd notions of right and wrong but can certainly belt out a tune. ๐Ÿ˜‰ย 
Pink was invited to sing for the Royal children but declined saying
she couldn't entertain folks who entertained the notion that hunting was O.K.. ๐Ÿ™„

Hey Pink ! Don't bring children into it. ๐Ÿ˜ถ
But dat woman gots some pipes on her. ๐Ÿ˜‰

O.K. I,m back.

Apparently that sentence is a state motto with circumspice meaning look around.
I saw it on a police badge which led me to think it meant surveil or surveillance.
Well surveil isn't that far off from look around. ๐Ÿค”
Give me a break. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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14 Sep 2017, 13:53 #180

I like your idea concerning the animals Quest, but I think for it to be effective it would have to be an embedded tracker with the animal in their natural environment (or at least a safari park). Placing a wild animal into a scientific testing area would work as a test group I suppose, with a 3rd group being domesticated animals in their home environment.