redhawk 53 wrote: Redhorse, I talked a lot about the drawweights of horsebows with very experienced horsearchers, no one would use a 115lbs bow on horseback. That´s fact. We discussed that topic in the ATARNET again and again. A recently finished discussion on the ATARNET concluded with about 70lbs for an average horse- warrior, some Manchu- elite soldiers had been able to use 100lbs- bows on horseback effectively and accurate. I know you´ll argue back, but I don´t discuss this drawweight- mania anymore.
A late entry, but I had to respond to the above.
What Redhawk should have said was "I talked a lot about draw-weights of horsebows with horse archers I consider to be experienced but who could not handle more than 70 lbs, The fact is that these people thought that 115 lb was too heavy for horseback use".
If he has read Selby's "Chinese Archery" and looked at the figures, he will know that the likely useful range for a horse bow in organised military "warbow"cultures is in the 70 lb to 120 lb ballpark.
Knowing archers who are competent both with horses and heavy draw-weight weights, all I can add is that whilst 70 lb might be considered heavy in some tribal contexts, in an organised military context 70 lb is a low end draw-weight, seated or otherwise. But potentially useful draw weight nonetheless against a man with a heavy bow who is sufficiently overbowed that he could not hit you first.
Fantastic job Adam. I wonder if it is thick in the limbs in a trade of off speed for stability.
It's meant to be simple, not easy.