I haven’t checked this thread for a long time. Thanks for all the responses. I’ll try to address the questions and comments best I can.
@ Indoorsout: Thanks for your feedback!
@ Montanadolphin: So glad it worked out for you.! Wish I could see your pictures but the links are broken. J
@Caroline: While I haven’t ever added an inner fleece, my recommendation would be to measure the thickness of the felt and add that measurement to the boot. Let us know how that works if you are still around ok?
@ vette: Sorry I’m so late in responding and I hope you are enjoying your new grandbaby. Beading can be a tricky topic here as some patterns do have spiritual meaning/significance and should be passed on by a Traditionalist who is the holder of that knowledge. That said, there are numerous beading books that offer instructions, such as the “Beads to Buckskin” series by Peggy Sue Henry. Our own Paleoplanet member Michael Bootz has an excellent beading tutorial in the Leather forum. Let us know how you made out!
@krosenau: Thanks, but youtube isn’t a great fit for lazy reclusives like me. I’ll leave that for someone else to do. Want a job? J
@saxaphonium: Glad you figured it out and posted your results. They look great! Maybe you figured it out that the instructions are so that you get a better heal fit this way when you pull the tab up and stitch it. I like snug-fitting mocs. J
The older native women around here will give you a good scolding for “sloppy mocs” lol.
@kardon33: cool boots for sure! The antler is a nice touch...i like! A high arch is tricky; a tip for others is to take a piece of string and put it across the tallest part of your arch, measuring from the floor across the arch to the floor on the other side of your foot. Stretch this piece of string across the upper portion of the pattern to make sure you’ve got the proper width (remember you WILL get some stretch with wear and you don’t want it to end up being too wide). Well done!
@joeyflores13: hey I think we maybe emailed each other. I don’t have an answer for your question regarding soles but would like to know if you found one. To be honest I’ve had mocs last many years (like 6 to 10 years) with hard summer outdoor use so this question is always a puzzle to me. One thing for sure is that I do my best to steer clear of gravel and concrete as those are guaranteed sole-killers. Other than that, I’ve been known to put duct-tape on the bottoms when it rains. Your pictures are way cool! You may find that having your stitches so exposed will lead to greater wear and eventual breakage. I’d suggest either a welt or smaller stitches, so the thread gets buried between the layers of leather. Great job!
@tallmidget: Cute kid in your avatar! I’ve never experienced discomfort from this pattern. The V is not cut at the toes; the V makes the seam on the inside part of the foot. As far as being historically correct, I disagree with you. If you have Southern Plains moccasin experience you will appreciate that different Nations have different styles. It would be great if you made a tutorial of the style(s) you are familiar with and posted it here. My tutorial is based on what I’ve learned from various people from our Northern Plains people: Blackfoot, Lakota/Nakota, and Tsuu T’ina. The Cree folks I know typically use a different style. No doubt the Southern Nations had different styles due to different geographical and climate concerns. Thanks for your response, and my invitation to post your tutorial based on your experience is a sincere one. J
@True2type: What a beautiful response that totally made my day! Thank-you!
@Arko: Thanks a lot! J
@dulala: In case you don’t see my earlier response, the measurements I gave are to provide for a snug-fitting heal. I’ve never made a felt liner but would suggest adding the thickness of the felt to the measurements of the mocc. Or try putting the felt liner on your foot before tracing out your pattern to accommodate the added bulk. Good luck.
@dula: What are you on?
@miles37: Welcome to the Planet. I’m feeling at a loss to help you. It doesn’t sound like you have started your mocs and so I’m going to suggest to you that the instructions will become clearer once you have the tactile and visual experience of actually making them. If you get stuck at a particular spot, and have a clear question about that step, feel free to either email me (addy at beginning of tutorial) or post your specific question again on the leather forum. I’ll do my best to help. As far as the thickness of commercial leather, I’m sorry but I don’t know as I use my own braintanned leather. Again, you may get some advice if you re-post on the leather forum. As for using triple layers of leather, consider felt or leather insoles and adjust the “width” measurement by using the string technique I mentioned earlier in my response to kardon33. Good luck and let us know!
Thanks everybody for your interest. Makes me feel good.