how i make primitive arrows...pics working!

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how i make primitive arrows...pics working!

michbowguy
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11 Oct 2007, 19:49 #1

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11 Oct 2007, 20:04 #2

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11 Oct 2007, 20:20 #3

ok.
i started out with six maple and dogwood shoots.
cut dried and they were almost all the way scraped...

next i had to heat straighten them...





now the shafts are ready to be cut all to the same length,and i made sure that the nock and the point end were very close to matching sizes...

then i marked my starting points for my self nocks, here i used a hacksaw blade with tape to score and a tile blade to finish the cut...



now i sand the inside a little...and dress it up...




i previously cut and stripped right wing turkey feathers the night before....

stripped and chewed a little of last years deer backstrap sinew..

fletched them up and added wraps at the fore and aft of feather, and also rienforced the nock...



and now for the buisness end. i just marka common distance...from end of my finger to first joint, then i draw a circle in the center of the shoot so i do NOT REMOVE THIS AREA!
and start removing wood.




and thats what im working on now.whew.
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11 Oct 2007, 20:24 #4

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11 Oct 2007, 20:34 #5

Jamie, you used the thumnail pics on the page, instead of touching the word "direct link", on the album page, doing that will copy the URL,, paste those into a notepad and transfer those via the "image button..... I usually do it that way..the words that go through my head as I do a bunch of pics, ...cut....image.(hit the image button)
....insert. ( when the explorer user prompt comes up, I will right click and hit insert,, that will take away the extra http// ).
..paste, (hit paste), then OK, for each pic,, over and over...

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11 Oct 2007, 21:56 #6

Jamie, half the battle is finding the right code. I think in Photobucket it is the second code down ("Direct Link"). If not, just try them all (process of elimination).

My version of Internet Explorer requires me to "Temporarily Allow Scripted Windows" everytime I go to post photos in a new reply box. It promts me at the top of the page (under the tool bar) when I first hit the "image" button in the reply page.

After I have "allowed scripeted windows", when I hit "image", a pop up window shows up when I hit "image". Just paste the code from Photobucket directly over the "
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12 Oct 2007, 01:43 #7

Keep it coming Jamie!!

I'm liking it so far!!Dustin
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12 Oct 2007, 01:58 #8

Hey sweet looking arrows Jaime, i like the fletchings a lot too!"When I found the skull in the woods, the first thing I did was call the police. But then I got curious about it. I picked it up, and started wondering who this person was, and why he had deer horns."
"When I found the skull in the woods, the first thing I did was call the police. But then I got curious about it. I picked it up, and started wondering who this person was, and why he had deer horns."
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14 Oct 2007, 07:08 #9

how do you make them perfectly straight?
I meen is there a problem if on the shafts are irregularities? smole ones
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14 Oct 2007, 08:39 #10

I talked to michbowguy (great thread by the way!) and he is ok with me posting some pics in his thread.

Tribunmarcus, first, select the straightest shoots possible. I dont take any shoots that are to crooked for example or that have bumps.

Those shoots are very very straight. They just need a little bending and thell be ok.



I bundle them and let them dry for several months, than I debark and either heat or cold straighten them. Then the real work begins: getting them perfectly straight and spined.

First I measure the spine than hand plane it down, including all the irregularities, with a hand plane that has been transformed for that purpose.





Resently I needed arrows spined 35#. I took shoots spined 50-60# and hand planed them dowmn to 40#. When arrived at a spine that is 5# above the spine I stopped hand planning the shaft and go over to sanding it down to the required spine. For that purpose I made those tools. They are made from hawthorn with drills ranging from 10mm to 13mm.







That tool is copied from the sanding stone that our ancestors used.

Fix the tool in a vice, so that:
-you can push the shaft with both hands through the drilled hole.
-you can adjust the pressure employed by the vice by closing the jaws or
-by moving the tool up or down





I use a 80 grit machine sandpaper and employ about 10-20 strokes before I respine the shaft. Repeat until the shaft is perfectly straight and spined to your requirements.

Result: this dogwood shaft is perfectly straight. Diameter is 5/16, weight is 370 grains including the yew knock.



Yew knock

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15 Oct 2007, 03:19 #11

wow!
alot more work to those arrows hartung!
i guess mine are the lazy mans way. lol

but i will say this, your arrows may have whips and dips in them and as lond as the nock end and tip end are TRUE with each other, the rest will be fine.

our ancestors had no spine charts. no mass calculators.no real means to test them, all they did was shoot them, and if they flew good they quit working on it.
i guess mine arent show stoppers. they are the meat and taters kind

i do like the looks of well made arras tho! good job hartung.
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24 Oct 2007, 15:25 #12

fine work there fellas. I've gotta get out and harvest some shoots this winter.
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17 Mar 2008, 16:26 #13

Can these pictures be brought back? They all say they've disappeared.
What happened to the Spaniards/ That made so great a boast-o?/ Well they shall eat the feathered goose;/ We shall eat the roast-o!
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12 Oct 2008, 09:51 #14

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13 Oct 2008, 19:17 #15

I too would love to see the pictures that went with this article.
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18 Oct 2008, 06:27 #16

Unfortunately, Yuku doesn't host photos. So, when a member deletes their photos from their photo host (or the photo host closes down, or whatever), the photos are lost.

It would be really nice if guys who went to all the trouble of posting the photos in the first place would maintain them in their photo host accounts...

My suggest is to send PMs (Personal Messages) to the members with the missing photos, and see if you can politely talk them into restoring their photos... Just click on their user name underneath their avatar to be taken to a page with a "message" button...

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