Giving the legendary Osage a try.

NorthShorelongbow
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14 Sep 2006, 22:53 #41

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14 Sep 2006, 22:54 #42

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15 Sep 2006, 00:22 #43

Your kid is a little cutie Manny. Wait till you have a couple more... busy will take on a whole new meaning

I too have tempered my guava longbow a few times..and it got better each time.. I really think this wood likes to be on the dry side of dry.. I figured this is important for those getting guava staves in humid regions..

It would be interesting to weight these two bows when they are done.. I know we can take a ton of stats, but relative density of the two interests me the most.

Rich-Its all about the density Richards Bowyery
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15 Sep 2006, 02:11 #44

Manny

Just finished reading the whole thread great work, and what a cute little one. Hope you give us a rundown on the final dimensions and weights when you get done. Could you describe your heat treat and straightening process for me?

Greg
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15 Sep 2006, 03:29 #45

Hmm Greg, I'm not the best at teoretical explenations


Once I clamped the bow to the bench, I start tempering from the handle, adding weigths depending on how much bend I want the limb to take.
that leave it untill properly cold.

Manny
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15 Sep 2006, 03:31 #46

O.K. the heat is of this is how they stand rigth now.


tomorrow the overlays go on


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15 Sep 2006, 03:43 #47

Manny

Works for me, do you use any oil when heating to keep from scorching? I might try this on a piece of osage lumber I plan to splice and back with boo.

Greg
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15 Sep 2006, 16:20 #48

Wonderful bows. Wonderful family. Look around twice and she'll be married. Jawgehttp://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni
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15 Sep 2006, 20:00 #49

Awesome buildalong, Manny! Thanks, and God bless you for it!

Here I was just getting over jealousy of you and your tropical paradise (complete with bow tree and bacon filled woods), and you show a picture of your beautiful women folk...! You are truly a blessed man...

I got my first nephew shooting at 2 years, and his younger brother shooting at 18 months... So it is not too soon to start on kids bows, bro... Wait until you see the little darling enjoying shooting one of your creations... You won't hardly be able to stand it...

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15 Sep 2006, 20:12 #50

Thanks George, Ken.

Greg, no need for oils when you belly temper, but you can use them if you only want to bend the wood, I don't but a lot of bowyers do.

Manny
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15 Sep 2006, 20:47 #51

Very nice Manny. The guava has a little more setback in the handle though. Don't go cheating for the home team now. hehe

So Steve is the mass guy, and Rich is the dense guy?

I'm on a roll.
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15 Sep 2006, 23:43 #52

Lennie.

that was in the stave already, couldn't help there

The Guava stands at 1 3/4" reflex, the Osage 3/4", but after I get the overlays on, I migth get some sweeping extra reflex on the Osage, I stopped when a crack appeared wile flipping the second tip.

....hey Osage already won in bending ease, and phisycal weigth, gotta cheat a bit now
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16 Sep 2006, 11:59 #53

Nice Manny. Looks like a good piece of Osage there.Marc
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16 Sep 2006, 17:35 #54

Manny, Steve told us at the last bowyers' meet that some belly cracks often appear when heat correcting osage... and that they present no problem... Just thought I would mention it...

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17 Sep 2006, 03:39 #55

I thougth so Ken, I had that a happening a lot with Guava, and was never a problem, but not knowing Osage I stoppped and waited for someone like you to give an opinion,...still have plenty wood to give up in that area anyway
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17 Sep 2006, 07:19 #56

Manny... just to clear up, I don't know much about Osage (or much else)... and I was passing on Steve's words... Ha ha. So don't get mad at me if I misinterpreted what Steve meant! I will talk to him about it tomorrow (hope he shows up!)

Ken
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18 Sep 2006, 01:36 #57

Guava gets Osage overlays

Osage gets Guava overlays

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18 Sep 2006, 01:56 #58

Complementary overlays, nice touch. We'll blame those if the osage loses this battle.

That guava has a very nice color, and the grain looks real good too.

I haven't had many problems with osage cracking with heat, its not like you werwe really cranking on those tips to get that little bit of reflex. Sounded to me like the wood might've been kinda green but from Shannon's description it should be nice and dry. Hopefully they don't do deep, you'll no doubt be thinning quite a bit and out there the wood isn't under too much stress.

How's that other guava blank? It looked really sweet, you saving that for a special occasion?
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18 Sep 2006, 06:41 #59

Lennie, I will ad some lead weigths to those overlays ( gotta help the home wood) but I think Osage will win anyway

Yeah nice color he?...not bad for a white wood.

I stopped as soon as I noticed it cracking, and yeah lots of wood to come out from that area.

I'm shooting in booth those Guavas, before I post my bows I like to take them tru a lot of shooting and braced time.

I'm really taking my time with the skinny one 64", 1 1/16" wide, 70#, I would like to keep 1 1/2 reflex, so I'm going slow, don't want to make any mistake
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