big knot in elm stave

big knot in elm stave

turmoiler
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November 20th, 2006, 6:56 pm #1

I have an elm stave with a big knot in a limb because of a dead branch. I removed the rotten wood with a needle and there is no hole from back to belly. The knot is a couple of inches past midlimb and is 1/2" wide.This is the first time that I deal with such a problem so any advice about how do you manage this knot will be wellcome.
This stave is 66 long and 1 7/8 wide and I want to make a simple flatbow, more or less 50@27, would it be possible? This stave has another problem, the outer ring is less than 1mm thick (1/16"), should I remove it?

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Ryano
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November 20th, 2006, 9:19 pm #2

You should be able to work around it. Where is it located at on the stave? can you put it in the non bending handle section or does it lie in the middle of the working limb area? either way it should be doable if you leave the knot proud on the back of the bow and maybe leave it a bit wider around it.
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dantolin
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November 20th, 2006, 9:32 pm #3

I agree with Ryano,
let's have space arround the knot.
I see you are working in a project, I'm cleaning my staves and billets and I hope starting some bow project at christmas.
A ver si nos vemos algn da, que estamos muy cerca.
Un saludo:
David
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November 21st, 2006, 11:12 pm #4

well, I know that I have to leave more wood around the knot, I have enough experience about this, but this is a real big one and it is located in the most bending section of the limb. I don't know if I have to leave this zone also thicker or even make it no benbable at all, so I was asking for your experience. Any advice?

Anyway I have worked a little bit more this stave and this is how it looks like now:









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November 22nd, 2006, 12:15 am #5

Do not make it thicker on the belly just let it alone on the back and follow the lateral grain swirl around the knot side to side. The tree has already strenthend its self around the knot as it grew so you should be just fine. Elm is about as tough a wood as there is, so I think you will be just fine.
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November 22nd, 2006, 11:27 pm #6

Como te va colega?.... .....

Ya veo que de PRIMERA!, esa vara de Olmo tiene un reflex

cojonudo.

Al igual que Ryano Y David, yo tambien creo que el nudo esta trabajado de una forma impecable tio.....

Ese ligero ancho adicional que has dejado a ambos lados del nudo creo que sera mas que suficiente..... ....

Por cierto, la vara de Olmo era de un tronco grande?...o de una simple rama del mismo arbol?.....

Saludotes tio...

TRASLATION:

How are you fella?.... .....

I can see that you sure are doing really good guy!, that Elm stave has a really nice reflex on it.... ....

As Ryano and David, Id said that you are doing very good too

aroud that big knot.....very well worked mate!...following the original staves grain around it, ensures a preety good safety.... ...

BTW: Was that Elm stave taken out from a big log or, came out from a simple Elm tree branch?

Best regards...

Asier.
//Asier from Bilbao"BASQUE COUNTRY".
//Asier from Bilbao"BASQUE COUNTRY".
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