Ambush Bow Challenge Finalists

Win1885
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September 17th, 2006, 12:38 pm #1

Just got the fall issue of The Bowyers Journal, which contains an update on the Ambush Bow Challenge. Congrats to those whose bows made the finals!
Self Bow Finalists
Art Butner
Tom Ott
John Scifres
Laminated Bow Finalists
Jerry Ross
Matt Simpson
Mike Windus
Composite Bow Finalist
(Only 2 entries)
Dan Spier
Mike Westvang

There a good picture of our Adam Keiper with his selfbow that, unfortunately, didn't make the cut.

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September 17th, 2006, 12:42 pm #2

They didn't show Tim Ott's bow, he's one heck of a bowyer though so I know it was good. I'm rooting for John Scifres, his design is the most basic and I think that goes a long way towards meeting the stability criterion. And I do hope a selfbow wins.
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September 17th, 2006, 2:13 pm #3

I've asked this before but never got an answer. What the heck is an ambush bow?//Jakob - Earlier Hraufnir
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September 17th, 2006, 8:54 pm #4

I'm pretty sure the term "ambush bow" was started by Dean Torges for this contest. It's basically a short flatbow with hunting in mind.

Personally, I like my bows on the longer side, whether for hunting or not.

Dean is pretty much an osage afficiando, and doesn't consider other woods in the same class as osage. Osage is probably the best wood for this design in a self bow, although I don't know what woods the finalists are using.

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September 18th, 2006, 12:52 am #5

Osage may be good bow wood, but I think Torgues has just forgotten what a good elm or hickory stave can do. We ought to send him some.
The ambush bow I was making for the contest unfortunately didn't turn out. It was about 56" long, highly recurved, slightly deflexed, with about eight heat treating sessions in it. It was a well shaped hackberry stave and the only bad thing about it was that it couldn't shoot quiet without silencers.
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September 18th, 2006, 3:16 am #6

Jakob,

Read this article. It explains all.-Matt
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September 18th, 2006, 1:20 pm #7

SBA, I think I am not alone is saying I suspect Dean has forgotton more about white wood Bowyery that I will ever learn.

I have to agree that he is a little annoying with his It is osage or nothing slant but ya cant argue with his results. Saddly I have no way to work with osage.

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tom sawyer
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September 18th, 2006, 1:57 pm #8

Ragi I agree with you about Mr. Torges. He's come to his conclusions through extensive testing. And he's a craftsman of the highest order, in fact he's more than that. He's an artist. I don't think he would say that osage was the only good bow wood either, just that if you have access it is one of your better choices.

Isn't there a pic of one of his whitewood bows in TBB1?
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September 18th, 2006, 2:25 pm #9

Yeah, Lenny, there's a pic of him in (I think) Comstock's whitewood chapter. He's holding an elm bow and a hackberry bow with about 3" of perfect reflex.Save the Cro-Magnons
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