ONLY woman head of department removed without reasons

ONLY woman head of department removed without reasons

ples diwai
ples diwai

May 6th, 2004, 1:50 am #1

MEN looking for lookholes and fabricating ill-founded (or no) reasons to replace committed public servants with their crooks! Removing the only Woman Departmental Secretary is a blow to our woman folk.

Minister MUST Explain!!!!!!!!
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Explain Secretary Elias’ sacking

THE only woman departmental head in the Papua New Guinea public service has been sacked from her job.
Margaret Elias — who for many years was Secretary for Labour and Employment or Industrial Relations — has had her appointment revoked by the Government and told to report to the Department of Personnel Management at Waigani about her new job — if one is available.
Many former departmental heads have ended up in what is commonly referred to as the “pool” waiting to re-deployed elsewhere in the public service. When there is nothing for them to do after three months, they are made redundant.
When the Minister for Labour and Industrial Relations Tom Tomiape announced on Tuesday the removal of Ms Elias from the department, he gave no specific reasons at all as to why she was being removed.
All he said was that Cabinet had made the decision. Departmental heads are appointed by the Government and can be removed or replaced as the Government sees fit. But, common decency demands that the Government gives reasons as why a senior departmental head of Ms Elias’ standing and who has been in her job for many years is suddenly not wanted.
It is a blow again to the the women of PNG coming just when the nomination of the only woman candidate for the position of Governor - General, Nahau Rooney, was rejected by members of Parliament who chose to support men only for the vice regal race.
It is a time of mourning for women all across this land. At no time in the history of PNG have women been so badly let down by the men who dominate politics and government in the country.
We wonder what kind of message political leaders of PNG are trying to send to the five million plus people of the country when two sad stories like these are told.
Women are victims of PNG’s style of gutter politics and it will be many more years yet before this mentality is reversed
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Anonymous
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May 6th, 2004, 8:46 am #2

Is there some sort of discrimination act about this? sacking women for no reason.
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Anonymous
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May 6th, 2004, 11:49 am #3

Then how was she removed and not promoted?
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May 10th, 2004, 3:19 am #4

MEN looking for lookholes and fabricating ill-founded (or no) reasons to replace committed public servants with their crooks! Removing the only Woman Departmental Secretary is a blow to our woman folk.

Minister MUST Explain!!!!!!!!
___________

Explain Secretary Elias’ sacking

THE only woman departmental head in the Papua New Guinea public service has been sacked from her job.
Margaret Elias — who for many years was Secretary for Labour and Employment or Industrial Relations — has had her appointment revoked by the Government and told to report to the Department of Personnel Management at Waigani about her new job — if one is available.
Many former departmental heads have ended up in what is commonly referred to as the “pool” waiting to re-deployed elsewhere in the public service. When there is nothing for them to do after three months, they are made redundant.
When the Minister for Labour and Industrial Relations Tom Tomiape announced on Tuesday the removal of Ms Elias from the department, he gave no specific reasons at all as to why she was being removed.
All he said was that Cabinet had made the decision. Departmental heads are appointed by the Government and can be removed or replaced as the Government sees fit. But, common decency demands that the Government gives reasons as why a senior departmental head of Ms Elias’ standing and who has been in her job for many years is suddenly not wanted.
It is a blow again to the the women of PNG coming just when the nomination of the only woman candidate for the position of Governor - General, Nahau Rooney, was rejected by members of Parliament who chose to support men only for the vice regal race.
It is a time of mourning for women all across this land. At no time in the history of PNG have women been so badly let down by the men who dominate politics and government in the country.
We wonder what kind of message political leaders of PNG are trying to send to the five million plus people of the country when two sad stories like these are told.
Women are victims of PNG’s style of gutter politics and it will be many more years yet before this mentality is reversed
Every Case needs to be studied individually ofcourse but i will say this as an overall picture woman need to fight but the problem is we need to have some sort of oraganisation it has to be a movement of somekind. strong woman in powerful positions not just politics in the other public sections and private sector. They can either write a journal that all woman can read or have an organisation with specific goals that lobbies government etc.

either way they will eventually effect society in possitive ways towards womans growth, womans issues effect all woman those rurally and urbanlly.
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Anonymous
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May 11th, 2004, 2:00 am #5

MEN looking for lookholes and fabricating ill-founded (or no) reasons to replace committed public servants with their crooks! Removing the only Woman Departmental Secretary is a blow to our woman folk.

Minister MUST Explain!!!!!!!!
___________

Explain Secretary Elias’ sacking

THE only woman departmental head in the Papua New Guinea public service has been sacked from her job.
Margaret Elias — who for many years was Secretary for Labour and Employment or Industrial Relations — has had her appointment revoked by the Government and told to report to the Department of Personnel Management at Waigani about her new job — if one is available.
Many former departmental heads have ended up in what is commonly referred to as the “pool” waiting to re-deployed elsewhere in the public service. When there is nothing for them to do after three months, they are made redundant.
When the Minister for Labour and Industrial Relations Tom Tomiape announced on Tuesday the removal of Ms Elias from the department, he gave no specific reasons at all as to why she was being removed.
All he said was that Cabinet had made the decision. Departmental heads are appointed by the Government and can be removed or replaced as the Government sees fit. But, common decency demands that the Government gives reasons as why a senior departmental head of Ms Elias’ standing and who has been in her job for many years is suddenly not wanted.
It is a blow again to the the women of PNG coming just when the nomination of the only woman candidate for the position of Governor - General, Nahau Rooney, was rejected by members of Parliament who chose to support men only for the vice regal race.
It is a time of mourning for women all across this land. At no time in the history of PNG have women been so badly let down by the men who dominate politics and government in the country.
We wonder what kind of message political leaders of PNG are trying to send to the five million plus people of the country when two sad stories like these are told.
Women are victims of PNG’s style of gutter politics and it will be many more years yet before this mentality is reversed
What the F*** is wrong with PNGan men??????? they are so discriminating.........Why in the world wouldn't they want any women to be the head of something/anything for that matter.., geez I thought those in Parliament and others who hold high positiions in society would by now have changed their freaking attitude towards women but nah its innerted in them........ do they think that women can't even take care of the freaking departments or the country..... hearing about these two ladies is really disturbing........ I think its time that women should stand up for themselves.....atleast if we could form an organisation of some sort that will try to get as many women in our society to be educated ( as I see education for women as a step forward for anything to advance in PNG)...and stand up against these male chauvinists, though I know it will take a very long time, just a step forward at a time will make a hugh difference in our society in the future........
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Karamap
Karamap

May 11th, 2004, 2:22 am #6

We need to come out of our narrow minded ways, i mean i am not. I am open minded Tehhhhhh






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May 11th, 2004, 7:36 am #7

Is there some sort of discrimination act about this? sacking women for no reason.
If PNG women of today fight for women's rights in the men's world (PNG society) we are making ways for the next four to 6 generations to come where women will run PNG. Be patient and work together.

Look at the history of women fighting in America, UK etc for Women's Rights, and now new Revolutionary RAWA movement. The young lady gave a very moving talk last Saturday. This group is fighting for the Women's Rights in Muslim World.

Women of PNG ! use the sympathetic ears of men of png well. They are your supporters. Not all men are "pigs"

Please read previous posts before posting, reaping topics is only a waste of time and puts people off from visiting this board.

No use of vulgar languages on title of topics please, only put people off from coming in. I have not entered this board because the topics didn't interest me for quite sometime.
Some news are just too sad to comment on. If comments are made then please think of the circumstances.

We have to work as one voice.

If you feel you have nothing to say don't say anything at all.

This board is for us women of png at home and overseas. Working together to bring about Papua New Guinea Women's rights to be recognised in future generations.

Things don't happen over night.

Please everyone! be constructive in your posts.

WC
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Korotokaibuna
Korotokaibuna

May 12th, 2004, 3:36 am #8

MEN looking for lookholes and fabricating ill-founded (or no) reasons to replace committed public servants with their crooks! Removing the only Woman Departmental Secretary is a blow to our woman folk.

Minister MUST Explain!!!!!!!!
___________

Explain Secretary Elias’ sacking

THE only woman departmental head in the Papua New Guinea public service has been sacked from her job.
Margaret Elias — who for many years was Secretary for Labour and Employment or Industrial Relations — has had her appointment revoked by the Government and told to report to the Department of Personnel Management at Waigani about her new job — if one is available.
Many former departmental heads have ended up in what is commonly referred to as the “pool” waiting to re-deployed elsewhere in the public service. When there is nothing for them to do after three months, they are made redundant.
When the Minister for Labour and Industrial Relations Tom Tomiape announced on Tuesday the removal of Ms Elias from the department, he gave no specific reasons at all as to why she was being removed.
All he said was that Cabinet had made the decision. Departmental heads are appointed by the Government and can be removed or replaced as the Government sees fit. But, common decency demands that the Government gives reasons as why a senior departmental head of Ms Elias’ standing and who has been in her job for many years is suddenly not wanted.
It is a blow again to the the women of PNG coming just when the nomination of the only woman candidate for the position of Governor - General, Nahau Rooney, was rejected by members of Parliament who chose to support men only for the vice regal race.
It is a time of mourning for women all across this land. At no time in the history of PNG have women been so badly let down by the men who dominate politics and government in the country.
We wonder what kind of message political leaders of PNG are trying to send to the five million plus people of the country when two sad stories like these are told.
Women are victims of PNG’s style of gutter politics and it will be many more years yet before this mentality is reversed
Everything happends for a reason, if Mrs Elias was removed from her position, I think this could be the following reasons;
(1) She must have not being performing(reporting, meetings, contributing positively and etc.)
(2) She is at the age of retirement
(3) Misusing state property

If these are the criteria of her dismissal, then I think it is justified. But if there is none, I believe something FISHY is going on within the system. I believe someone is trying to put his/her WANTOK in the system. Yupela save pinis, its PNG, its whom you KNOW, not what you know, experience, qualifications.

I believe, there are women in PNG who can perform but the problem is those who are in authority are still way behind in understanding of equality in these days.

Encouragement to women who are pursuing in studies, work and career, don’t give up, there are unseen opportunities that that are coming which our own country cannot even give, look beyond the clouds, there is always are way out.

KB
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meri png in vanuatu
meri png in vanuatu

May 12th, 2004, 6:40 am #9

MEN looking for lookholes and fabricating ill-founded (or no) reasons to replace committed public servants with their crooks! Removing the only Woman Departmental Secretary is a blow to our woman folk.

Minister MUST Explain!!!!!!!!
___________

Explain Secretary Elias’ sacking

THE only woman departmental head in the Papua New Guinea public service has been sacked from her job.
Margaret Elias — who for many years was Secretary for Labour and Employment or Industrial Relations — has had her appointment revoked by the Government and told to report to the Department of Personnel Management at Waigani about her new job — if one is available.
Many former departmental heads have ended up in what is commonly referred to as the “pool” waiting to re-deployed elsewhere in the public service. When there is nothing for them to do after three months, they are made redundant.
When the Minister for Labour and Industrial Relations Tom Tomiape announced on Tuesday the removal of Ms Elias from the department, he gave no specific reasons at all as to why she was being removed.
All he said was that Cabinet had made the decision. Departmental heads are appointed by the Government and can be removed or replaced as the Government sees fit. But, common decency demands that the Government gives reasons as why a senior departmental head of Ms Elias’ standing and who has been in her job for many years is suddenly not wanted.
It is a blow again to the the women of PNG coming just when the nomination of the only woman candidate for the position of Governor - General, Nahau Rooney, was rejected by members of Parliament who chose to support men only for the vice regal race.
It is a time of mourning for women all across this land. At no time in the history of PNG have women been so badly let down by the men who dominate politics and government in the country.
We wonder what kind of message political leaders of PNG are trying to send to the five million plus people of the country when two sad stories like these are told.
Women are victims of PNG’s style of gutter politics and it will be many more years yet before this mentality is reversed
Margaret has been a longest serving female departmental head and it is a blow to women to learn of her sacking.

Whilst those of us png women overseas may not have all the details surrounding her dismissal, we join our sisters in png in mourning the demise of the womens cause and regard this as a backward step for the advancement of women.

Further, it sends a negetive message for the rhetorics of equality and partnership with women in the develovement of our nation.

We look forward to more explanation and further discussion on this.

Hem ia nomo mo tankyu tumas
meri png in vanuatu
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anon
anon

May 20th, 2004, 10:27 am #10

Is there some sort of discrimination act about this? sacking women for no reason.
Please enough is enough,just pose for a moment and try to look back to the countries historical developments and assess the participation of women in nation building and what messes we have created locally,nationally and internationally. We have to think whether removing women in holding higher office is giving good images to the international financial companies and donors or the AID providers. We have to ask ourselves now how will the women, mothers,girls and children going to benefits from such funding from international communities. Such action demonstrated by the so call narrow minded people and don't look beyond the international laws that is advocating equal employment opportunities and benefits is putting our country at risk. The more we demonstrates this types of habits,PNG I'm sorry we are heading to destruction.Just pose for a moment and think PNG.
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