Existence of Jesus

Existence of Jesus

feraldan
feraldan

May 20th, 2012, 11:43 pm #1

I have a good question:

Why do so many of you believe in Jesus when there are NO archaeological or written evidence of his existence outside of the Bible? In other words, theres no proof he existed?

And yet the well documented stories of the Sumerians are clearly backed up by archaeological evidence alover the place?

I came across this forum when searching for Sumerians, and found like so many other sites, what seems like a bunch of Christians on a witch hunt.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT JESUS ACTUALY EXISTED

THERE ARE COUNTESS SITES ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST BACKING UP THE STORIES OF THE SUMERIANS???

Did you ever consider that maybe its you Christians that are belive a pack of lies????????????????????????????
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EM NAU
EM NAU

May 23rd, 2012, 6:12 am #2

Does your doctor know you're wandering around outside? What is today's date?
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Noxi
Noxi

May 23rd, 2012, 8:32 am #3

I have a good question:

Why do so many of you believe in Jesus when there are NO archaeological or written evidence of his existence outside of the Bible? In other words, theres no proof he existed?

And yet the well documented stories of the Sumerians are clearly backed up by archaeological evidence alover the place?

I came across this forum when searching for Sumerians, and found like so many other sites, what seems like a bunch of Christians on a witch hunt.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT JESUS ACTUALY EXISTED

THERE ARE COUNTESS SITES ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST BACKING UP THE STORIES OF THE SUMERIANS???

Did you ever consider that maybe its you Christians that are belive a pack of lies????????????????????????????
Wow!!! Amazing, Extrodinary, IGNORANCE! Where is your Evidence that Jesus never existed ??? Instead of deluding yourself with fantasies and fairy stories try doing some actual research!

Historical evidences of Jesus include the following:

The first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious Christians (from Christus, which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. Suetonius, chief secretary to Emperor Hadrian, wrote that there was a man named Chrestus (or Christ) who lived during the first century.

Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ. There is a controversial verse (18:3) that says, Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats....He was [the] Christ...he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.

One version reads, At this time there was a wise man named Jesus. His conduct was good and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who became his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive; accordingly he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders.


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Another Conspiracy Theory
Another Conspiracy Theory

May 23rd, 2012, 11:10 am #4

I have a good question:

Why do so many of you believe in Jesus when there are NO archaeological or written evidence of his existence outside of the Bible? In other words, theres no proof he existed?

And yet the well documented stories of the Sumerians are clearly backed up by archaeological evidence alover the place?

I came across this forum when searching for Sumerians, and found like so many other sites, what seems like a bunch of Christians on a witch hunt.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT JESUS ACTUALY EXISTED

THERE ARE COUNTESS SITES ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST BACKING UP THE STORIES OF THE SUMERIANS???

Did you ever consider that maybe its you Christians that are belive a pack of lies????????????????????????????
Did Jesus of Nazareth exist? Well, obviously. It's one of those questions that answers itself just by being asked; the only people who answer in the negative are cranky mythicists, professional atheists and conspiracy theorists.
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christian
christian

May 23rd, 2012, 11:45 am #5

I have a good question:

Why do so many of you believe in Jesus when there are NO archaeological or written evidence of his existence outside of the Bible? In other words, theres no proof he existed?

And yet the well documented stories of the Sumerians are clearly backed up by archaeological evidence alover the place?

I came across this forum when searching for Sumerians, and found like so many other sites, what seems like a bunch of Christians on a witch hunt.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT JESUS ACTUALY EXISTED

THERE ARE COUNTESS SITES ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST BACKING UP THE STORIES OF THE SUMERIANS???

Did you ever consider that maybe its you Christians that are belive a pack of lies????????????????????????????
i am so happy that people are opposing christianity and no other religion else! this shows that our lord Jesus is faithful/truthful through and through ! he said that in the last days the antichrist will arise here and there and oppose christians like as ! he said "remember no servant is greater than his master,if they persecute me, they will persecute you also" !! and its evident here right now on this web site ! haha i thank God i am on the right side with the other christians on this post ..
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oh dead
oh dead

May 24th, 2012, 9:12 pm #6

No silly boy, all it shows is that there are no muslims or buddhists on this board trying to push their religions in our faces. Thats why no one gets down on them.

Please use some common sense.
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EM NAU
EM NAU

May 25th, 2012, 5:20 am #7

"...push their religion in our faces?..." This is the most idiotic comment I've read so far.

Someone coming into the faith page and whingeing about Christianity.
What are you doing here on the Faith page, if I may ask?

Like diving into water and complaining about getting wet.

As if Christians are pushing their faith in an atheist page here. Logic is not your strong suit.

If atheism is your religion, start one blog and have it as much as you like.

You make no sense here.
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piku
piku

May 25th, 2012, 7:51 am #8

Wow!!! Amazing, Extrodinary, IGNORANCE! Where is your Evidence that Jesus never existed ??? Instead of deluding yourself with fantasies and fairy stories try doing some actual research!

Historical evidences of Jesus include the following:

The first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious Christians (from Christus, which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. Suetonius, chief secretary to Emperor Hadrian, wrote that there was a man named Chrestus (or Christ) who lived during the first century.

Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ. There is a controversial verse (18:3) that says, Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats....He was [the] Christ...he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.

One version reads, At this time there was a wise man named Jesus. His conduct was good and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who became his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive; accordingly he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders.

Even most atheists believe that there was a man Jesus. They only thing they don't believe (just like all the non-Christian religions) is that he was the son of God.

This fellow is out in left field mentally.
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Observer
Observer

May 27th, 2012, 3:00 am #9

I have a good question:

Why do so many of you believe in Jesus when there are NO archaeological or written evidence of his existence outside of the Bible? In other words, theres no proof he existed?

And yet the well documented stories of the Sumerians are clearly backed up by archaeological evidence alover the place?

I came across this forum when searching for Sumerians, and found like so many other sites, what seems like a bunch of Christians on a witch hunt.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT JESUS ACTUALY EXISTED

THERE ARE COUNTESS SITES ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST BACKING UP THE STORIES OF THE SUMERIANS???

Did you ever consider that maybe its you Christians that are belive a pack of lies????????????????????????????
Feraldan, you present your 'evidence' without providing very much evidence. If the evidence you gave us is everything you have - everything that caused you to come to your viewpoint - then you're basing your viewpoint on very, very little evidence. That's a dangerous way in life to seek the truth.

Also, as other posters have already noted, there is quite a bit of evidence, coming from different angles, that Jesus the man did in fact exist. A common problem in reasoning and logic (demonstrated again and again on PNGScape) is when people pick and choose only evidence that suits your belief (as opposed to looking at the whole spectrum of evidence and see which direction it points).

Your argument would be far more convincing (right now it's now) if you gave us quite a few more pieces of evidence that points towards your theory AND you address the evidence against your theory (which points to Jesus Christ at least being a human being that lived in Israel some 2000 years ago).

By not supporting your theories in this logical fashion, you have been ridiculed both here and on other web sites. The reason is not that people are coming after you in particular, but your lack of a logical presentation of your theories, complete with evidence and a willingness to talk with opponents long enough that an audience can reach their own decision on what to believe, ALL makes it difficult to believe your theories, which are nearly always outlandish.
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good man
good man

May 27th, 2012, 5:07 am #10

"...push their religion in our faces?..." This is the most idiotic comment I've read so far.

Someone coming into the faith page and whingeing about Christianity.
What are you doing here on the Faith page, if I may ask?

Like diving into water and complaining about getting wet.

As if Christians are pushing their faith in an atheist page here. Logic is not your strong suit.

If atheism is your religion, start one blog and have it as much as you like.

You make no sense here.
gooday Sir/Madam,

From reading your post i conclude you are not a believer and definitely a science fiction freakazoid (lmao). But something that i think i should bring to your attention is that- although you could have chosen to attack any other religions or cults from the millions and millions in this world, yet out of the millions you some how (but christians are not surprised because our Lord professed this ) ,by plan (thus evident of Gods prophecy of "signs" of the end times), you chose Christianity- the one whom Jesus, the one true Lord and creator,started .

There are so many religions that have more silly prophecies or "bibles" than that of Christiaity but you dont attack them ? WHY ? becouse its all part of what God sayed and was the plan of how the world would end in the end times. Its not just u trying to pick on Christianity ,theres millions attacking Christianity around the world.

There is no religion like christianity- although there are many mimics and gimmicks. You can tell the genuine from fakes- the genuine always deliver what they say. Jesus sayed -the signs of the end times are famines, wars and rumours of wars, disasters, false teachers (Darwin ..etc) , the love of God will grow cold and the love of the world and materialistic things like money,cars,clothes ,huge mansions, jewelry, the latest fashion/trends will be seen. Man will murder each other like life means nothing , devil worship will be in the open as opposed to what it was decades ago(under ground) - They Have a church of satan in the sates now!!! homosexuality and all sexual perversion will arise into society deceiving others as being a normal way of life . The christian faith will be attacked and accused by others (the anti-christ) as being false !!! God is true to his word aye ? look , he professed this about 4 thousand years ago and now look what is happening in our world today through the news we receive each day .

50 years ago ,earth quakes were rarely sin on the news. NOW ITS EVERYDAY-EVERY Minute ON THE NEWS HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD !!! disasters like hail storms were rare decades ago and now its happening more more frequently than any other time in human history ! disaster after disaster ,the world as we know it is showing signs of STRESS !! this are "signs" that we are living in the end times when the world will come to a final end.

If you dont believe me than i suggest you watch the news and come out of your fantasy world with your aliens and all that nonsense.

See my point now ? its evident for all to see. You (and other people attacking christian faith) are helping others see the light. Thank you Sir/ madam. May God bless you


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