Bemobile distroting the truth

Bemobile distroting the truth

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November 3rd, 2009, 12:02 am #1

Digicel unfazed by war

By Eric tapakau

MOBILE phone company Digicel is not moved at all by the announcement from bemobile that it is slashing its charges to 49 toea across the board on all its calls.
Chief executive officer John Mangos said yesterday the company has listened to the market and has offered products and services to suit the different segments of the market.
Mr Mangos said Digicel was not at war with anyone as it was already a bigger, better network with over K1 billion spent in rolling out its network across the country and connecting close to four million people.
How is this declaring war on mobile prices when in fact it has increased prices to its own customers by 60 per cent (off peak increased from 29t to 49t) and offers services sometimes 20 times more expensive than Digicel? Mr Mangos asked.
Who are bemobile at war against with their price increase? They simply seemed to have increased their price at the expense of their customers.
He said Digicel had listened to the market and has offered products and services to suit the different segments of the market.
Digicel offers calls from 11toea which is 20 per cent of the cost of the calls offered by bemobile and text messages from one toea which is 5 per cent of the cost of the SMS on bemobile, Mr Mangos said.
There is not one plan which is going to fit all customers and bemobile in trying to fit all its customers into one plan has actually increased the cost of calls to its own customers by over 60 per cent.
He said Digicel had provided plans which suits late night customers, postpaid customers, Blackberry customers and provides services to assist in daily life such as checking the price of produce, topping up your power, topping up your phone from K1 and SMS banking.
Digicel has invested over K1 billion rolling out its network across PNG.
A large number of these areas have previously never had any form of communications, Mr Mangos said.
In fact, Digicel covers 4 million people in PNG and is delivering on its promise to the Government to provide better coverage, better prices and better value, Mr Mangos said.

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7mile
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True blue PNGean
True blue PNGean

November 19th, 2009, 12:21 am #2

Digicel cannot mislead all PNGeans.

Just last week, Digicel came out and blamed Telikom for Numbering Issues for more than 13 sites in PNG not able to make calls into Digicel's Network.

And today, Digicel says (Post Courier p8 30th Oct)it will not allow "free riders" on its network because they've spent over K1b on its network after they've been exposed.
They further claimed that, Digicel is not assisted by the World Bank's IFC and any claims involving this is misleading and defamatory.

However, last year World Bank's IFC admitted helping Digicel Network with huge investment loans.
See more below.
Papua New Guinea, April 7, 2008IFC, a member of the World Bank Group, and Export Development Canada have signed an agreement with Digicel Ltd. to help increase a nationwide GSM network in Papua New Guinea. The project is expected to expand substantially the reach of telephone service, covering areas previously not reached by existing service providers, as well as improving service quality, stimulating competition in the sector, reducing costs to consumers, and generating significant employment and support to local small and medium enterprises working with Digicel.

IFC, EDC, and a local commercial bank have arranged a US$92 million long-term package on commercial terms, of which IFC will finance US$40 million and EDC
US$25 millionhttp://www.ifc.org/ifcext/media.nsf/con ... 2400589273

Telikom is a national company and the world Bank did not assist them, nor do they have a policy to assist fledgling third world service providers like that,
unless they have their own interests stacked somewhere there. This is a known and established fact.
Going into unprofitable areas are an essential component of Foreign Direct Investors obligation in Licensing conditions for players in this industry. It makes no sense to harp on that.

It's fitting now to call the red team the "BIGGER LIAR NETWORK"

Tell the truth and get on with it. There's no need for another expensive arbitrator on this as reported on the Post Courier today.

Customers from either network know one basic thing - that is, the interconnection worked last June and it should continue to do so.

..........and whatever we do as Papua New Guineans, we need to make sure, that we are not being complicit in dragging the nation back to the slave and master era where the slaves did what was told to do and got paid tobacco for doing the hard work.

It pays to have some residue of patriotism and nationalism rather than being a short-sighted grave digger for our own grandchildren.

The soft economic wars of market grabbing ploys employed by developed economies must be seen for what it is especially in the "service industries".

When we reach a period where the "dig and ship industries" have reached their life-time, there's a tendency of being stuck in perpetual poverty because the "service industries" have also been take over by others. When we realise it, it will be too late to salvage anything!
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November 19th, 2009, 11:50 pm #3


Dont Care about the "mobile wars"



FACT 1. I am now able to talk directly to my relatives in the village, a 5 hour boat ride from the nearest town with no roads and discuss urgent issues in real time thanks to Digicel.

FACT 2. Teachers, health workers agriculture/forestry officers in the bush are now able to effectively communicate with their bosses at the provincial centres in real time with ease exchanging vital life-death issues. Thanks to Digicel.

FACT 3. Rural communication has never and ever and ever been as damn good as this. This is a revolution in rural communications in PNG. Better and cheaper than the gov radios in place or the sattelite phones that are in the government district offices and health centres in the bush.


FACT 3. I am now able to send online credits to my parents in the bush thanks to Digicel. How much more easier for people living overseas in any country in the world to send credits to their school children.

FACT 4. My relatives can afford the cheapest mobile fones in the world thanks to Digicel.

FACT 5. B Mobile is also part foreign owned, (part by the Somares and part by Telikom). It is no longer a "PNG owned" company. So who cares if the profits go to USA/PNG politicians or to Ireland, what is the difference. The most important thing is that we get the best in communication services.

FACT 6. B Mobile employees were smart arses when it came to dealing with my poor rural relatives inquires treating them like cow dung.

FACT 7. B Mobile underestimated the rural need for cheap easily available communication modes and begtan installing Sat Phones in the rural areas. Hah! only the well to do villagers could afford to use that service

FACT 8. Coverage by B Mobile was so poor, the fringes and certain areas of towns werent didnt even have coverage.

FACT 9. B Mobile never intended to service the rural areas only a niche market in the urban areas.

FACT 10. B Mobile charges have never been cheap.

FACT 11. We the people of PNG rural and urban stand behind Digicel all the way. A Grand Chief order should be presented to the the Company Digicel to making this quantum leap in communications in PNG.



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November 20th, 2009, 5:21 pm #4

Sometimes I wonder if the full privatisation and or dismantling of PTC from the old days when the embryonic form of corporatisation encompassing tax payers long term investment were thoroughly articulated by our leaders.

From memory, I recall the focus was to put PNG in prime position to better leverage off our vast resources and not just natural resources. As a proud PNGean looking from outside I feel our leaders have let us down or we lack a robust leadership in discharging essential services Telco being one It should be cheap to make a fone call irrespective of your geographic location including data services.

Its one of the reasons why we see a growing affluence of telco service providers delivering less then appealing services to PNG. Its not their fault, we just need to improve our long term strategic policies & frameworks and the resources to police or ensure PNGeanss resources are managed in an accountable manner so everyone of us enjoys the fruits of what is rightfully ours in a cost effective manner.

Although I may have my facts wrong so please disregard.

ralphy
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Gets time ah, bmobile
Gets time ah, bmobile

November 23rd, 2009, 1:55 am #5

Digicel unfazed by war

By Eric tapakau

MOBILE phone company Digicel is not moved at all by the announcement from bemobile that it is slashing its charges to 49 toea across the board on all its calls.
Chief executive officer John Mangos said yesterday the company has listened to the market and has offered products and services to suit the different segments of the market.
Mr Mangos said Digicel was not at war with anyone as it was already a bigger, better network with over K1 billion spent in rolling out its network across the country and connecting close to four million people.
How is this declaring war on mobile prices when in fact it has increased prices to its own customers by 60 per cent (off peak increased from 29t to 49t) and offers services sometimes 20 times more expensive than Digicel? Mr Mangos asked.
Who are bemobile at war against with their price increase? They simply seemed to have increased their price at the expense of their customers.
He said Digicel had listened to the market and has offered products and services to suit the different segments of the market.
Digicel offers calls from 11toea which is 20 per cent of the cost of the calls offered by bemobile and text messages from one toea which is 5 per cent of the cost of the SMS on bemobile, Mr Mangos said.
There is not one plan which is going to fit all customers and bemobile in trying to fit all its customers into one plan has actually increased the cost of calls to its own customers by over 60 per cent.
He said Digicel had provided plans which suits late night customers, postpaid customers, Blackberry customers and provides services to assist in daily life such as checking the price of produce, topping up your power, topping up your phone from K1 and SMS banking.
Digicel has invested over K1 billion rolling out its network across PNG.
A large number of these areas have previously never had any form of communications, Mr Mangos said.
In fact, Digicel covers 4 million people in PNG and is delivering on its promise to the Government to provide better coverage, better prices and better value, Mr Mangos said.

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Please keep Bmobile topic on the same thread, because it is making it difficult to censor if the same up to date topic is posted as a new topic.

7mile
HAVE YOU ALL SEEN THE D-MOBILE ADD ON THE BOARDS MEDIA AND EVERYWHERE????? WHOM DO THEY WANT TO RESCUE, THOSE POOR COMEDIANS, OR THEMSELVES? OBVIOUSLY, NOT A POOR VILLAGER WHO WAS DENIED THE VERY SERVICE SOME 2 YEARS AGO. THANKS TO DIGICEL.

B-Mobile is also a Foreign Owned company so as Digicel. So who gives a **** about the ownership. we want competitive and innovative enterprises like digicel. now, i can transfer my money from my cell phone instead of queing up that line that bsp. oh what a feeling.......


Keep trying to play that catch up game. FYI, i heard that b-mobile is speeding 40 t0 60 Million Kina in Add alone. Where have you been earlier???

Pro-digicel

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November 23rd, 2009, 3:41 am #6

One thing is certain. It is vital that people must be able to distinguish between what competition is what foreigners are then appreciate the benefits that competition delivers.

The obvious benefits of competition are , efficiency, fair pricing, affordability and innovation are.

However, these good benefits tend to have a life-span too.
Theyre NOT meant to be eternal gifts. God only gives eternal benefits. No created being can.

To maintain and achieve longertivity and sustainability, competition must be balanced.

These balancing acts are vital. The acts are necessary on the part of the consuming public. Wise thinking keeps competition checked at all times and ensure there is equilibrium.

If however, gullibility takes center stage, and consumers dont offer use their brains, on the competition game, then competition can turn really sour and can be really impossible to reverse.

An wholesale of carelessness, stupidity and blindness can lead to the demise of companies like service companies like bemobile - demise of airlines and national banks as we have witnessed all over the world and even in our region.

This is how it works. In the battle to capture customers, mobile telephony companies use a wide range of tactics to ward off competitors. Increasingly, price is the weapon of choice and frequently the skirmishing degenerates into a price war. Creating low-price appeal is often the goal, but the result of one retaliatory price slashing after another is often a precipitous decline in industry profits.

Its alright for Irish billionaires like Denis O'Brien (Digicel owner) because a short tern dent makes little differences on their deep pockets. However for companies like bemobile with 65% local ownership ( 50 % Telikom, 5% NASFUND, 5% Nambawan Super and another 5 % PNG Sustainable Development Company) , the consumers will suffer from four possible harmful effects in the long-run.

Firstly, competition lifeblood will cease to exist. Tendency towards innovation and efficiency in the industry becomes good as dead.

Secondly, if the price war leads to the demise of the competition, this can lead to higher prices and lower frequencies in the medium to long-run as the survivor seeks to recoup the short-term losses incurred during the price war.

Thirdly, there will be the tendency for the survivor to withdraw from areas that are essential but not profitable.

Lastly, if the loser happens to be a national company like bemobile, which is so vital for the nations long-term goals and objectives, then you are left at the mercies of foreign owners.

It is important for both the beneficiaries of competition - consumers and policy makers to understand that price wars can create economically devastating situations that take an extraordinary toll on mobile phone carriers and their viability.

No matter who wins, the consumers will all end up worse off than before competition kicked in

Take your pick.
I choose to remain a patriotic son of PNG....bemobile all the way
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November 23rd, 2009, 9:45 pm #7

Digicel unfazed by war

By Eric tapakau

MOBILE phone company Digicel is not moved at all by the announcement from bemobile that it is slashing its charges to 49 toea across the board on all its calls.
Chief executive officer John Mangos said yesterday the company has listened to the market and has offered products and services to suit the different segments of the market.
Mr Mangos said Digicel was not at war with anyone as it was already a bigger, better network with over K1 billion spent in rolling out its network across the country and connecting close to four million people.
How is this declaring war on mobile prices when in fact it has increased prices to its own customers by 60 per cent (off peak increased from 29t to 49t) and offers services sometimes 20 times more expensive than Digicel? Mr Mangos asked.
Who are bemobile at war against with their price increase? They simply seemed to have increased their price at the expense of their customers.
He said Digicel had listened to the market and has offered products and services to suit the different segments of the market.
Digicel offers calls from 11toea which is 20 per cent of the cost of the calls offered by bemobile and text messages from one toea which is 5 per cent of the cost of the SMS on bemobile, Mr Mangos said.
There is not one plan which is going to fit all customers and bemobile in trying to fit all its customers into one plan has actually increased the cost of calls to its own customers by over 60 per cent.
He said Digicel had provided plans which suits late night customers, postpaid customers, Blackberry customers and provides services to assist in daily life such as checking the price of produce, topping up your power, topping up your phone from K1 and SMS banking.
Digicel has invested over K1 billion rolling out its network across PNG.
A large number of these areas have previously never had any form of communications, Mr Mangos said.
In fact, Digicel covers 4 million people in PNG and is delivering on its promise to the Government to provide better coverage, better prices and better value, Mr Mangos said.

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Please keep Bmobile topic on the same thread, because it is making it difficult to censor if the same up to date topic is posted as a new topic.

7mile
As gullible as the rest of the poor ignorami, cant even realize that B Mobile is owned by Americans and Politicians... Go ahead pay for the Politicians houses in Australia.

So Dumb
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November 24th, 2009, 5:14 am #8

It's good to be an informed patriot than a gullible paranoiac with no semblance of judgment, foresight, and insight.
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November 25th, 2009, 7:18 am #9

Digicel unfazed by war

By Eric tapakau

MOBILE phone company Digicel is not moved at all by the announcement from bemobile that it is slashing its charges to 49 toea across the board on all its calls.
Chief executive officer John Mangos said yesterday the company has listened to the market and has offered products and services to suit the different segments of the market.
Mr Mangos said Digicel was not at war with anyone as it was already a bigger, better network with over K1 billion spent in rolling out its network across the country and connecting close to four million people.
How is this declaring war on mobile prices when in fact it has increased prices to its own customers by 60 per cent (off peak increased from 29t to 49t) and offers services sometimes 20 times more expensive than Digicel? Mr Mangos asked.
Who are bemobile at war against with their price increase? They simply seemed to have increased their price at the expense of their customers.
He said Digicel had listened to the market and has offered products and services to suit the different segments of the market.
Digicel offers calls from 11toea which is 20 per cent of the cost of the calls offered by bemobile and text messages from one toea which is 5 per cent of the cost of the SMS on bemobile, Mr Mangos said.
There is not one plan which is going to fit all customers and bemobile in trying to fit all its customers into one plan has actually increased the cost of calls to its own customers by over 60 per cent.
He said Digicel had provided plans which suits late night customers, postpaid customers, Blackberry customers and provides services to assist in daily life such as checking the price of produce, topping up your power, topping up your phone from K1 and SMS banking.
Digicel has invested over K1 billion rolling out its network across PNG.
A large number of these areas have previously never had any form of communications, Mr Mangos said.
In fact, Digicel covers 4 million people in PNG and is delivering on its promise to the Government to provide better coverage, better prices and better value, Mr Mangos said.

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Please keep Bmobile topic on the same thread, because it is making it difficult to censor if the same up to date topic is posted as a new topic.

7mile
luckily we do have a choice... Use B Mobile and send the money to USA and Australia (via politicians) or use Digicel and send money to Ireland. Either way the money goes abroad.

I choose Digicel... the way to go, cheap accessible, easy. If you want to choose B Mobile that is your choice.

Regarding price wars a gullible writer talked about... obviously he has no concept of marketing and pricing principles... the more price competition, the cheaper the product, not the way he thinks where competition brings about price increases. market prices are dependent on supply and demand with other factors influencing either... transportation, raw materials etc...

So all in all Digicel is the way to go
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November 25th, 2009, 7:22 am #10

HAVE YOU ALL SEEN THE D-MOBILE ADD ON THE BOARDS MEDIA AND EVERYWHERE????? WHOM DO THEY WANT TO RESCUE, THOSE POOR COMEDIANS, OR THEMSELVES? OBVIOUSLY, NOT A POOR VILLAGER WHO WAS DENIED THE VERY SERVICE SOME 2 YEARS AGO. THANKS TO DIGICEL.

B-Mobile is also a Foreign Owned company so as Digicel. So who gives a **** about the ownership. we want competitive and innovative enterprises like digicel. now, i can transfer my money from my cell phone instead of queing up that line that bsp. oh what a feeling.......


Keep trying to play that catch up game. FYI, i heard that b-mobile is speeding 40 t0 60 Million Kina in Add alone. Where have you been earlier???

Pro-digicel
Mate you are right. We need an open and competitive telecommunication industry. Look at Australia, Optus is owned by the Singtel group. Telstra is owned for the most part by tax payers or shareholders. then there is virgin etc...there is quite a few.

One thing PNG needs to do as I said previously is to implement a robust corporate governance model to police how the various organisations do business in PNG with a core responsibility in mind and that is PNG.

I know there is a clear distinction between private and public investment however I think we can improve our checks and balances.

It does not help anyone when one invest millions of kina into a revolving door. There is only one beneficiary that is disadvantaged...and this is PNG citizens.

What we don't want is a monopoly that disadvantages others. At the same time, we need to put in place legislations, policies and working procedures that promotes good corporate governance at is open and accountable.

Cheers
Ralf

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