Rapid increase in FSH??

Rapid increase in FSH??

Joined: February 23rd, 2012, 11:10 am

February 23rd, 2012, 3:18 pm #1

Hi girls, joining you from Germany..
already posted in the other forum - but with 42, I'm better off in this one I guess.
My situation: I had regular menses till last December, with ovulation. Then suddenly my period first came really late after 47 days, so I checked my hormones for the first time. Then my cycles just stopped (last one started Dec. 23rd). FSH dashed up from 9 in Dec to 18 in January to 40 this week!!
The doctor said he thinks I went through my complete menopause within those two months and it looks like it is all over. There are really no means of reactivating my ovaries, which have obviously stopped working altogether.
How can this be??? So fast??
He did see one follie on each side, does that mean there is still hope?
Does anyone know what happens to follies when the cycles are too long? Do they die? Are they harmed if they don't grow within the time they are supposed to?
We were just about to do an ICSI after months of trying 'the natural way' with ovulation tests, since my AMH was low in December as well, which was shocking enough. But it looks like we won't even get the chance and everything is over just like this?!
Has anyone else experienced such a fast increase in FSH? Could there be other reasons? Until Dec, I had my period every 25 days
AND, is ist really necessary/sufficient to lower FSH, shoudn't the REASON why FSH is increased be addressed? Since FSH increase is the body's response to ovaries not working?
Before all this happened, I had one bladder infection after the other - but with no bacteria detected and no inflammation. Then my ovaries started hurting (and still do). I went to 3 different pregnancy clinics, noone cared about the pain and the other symptoms.
Can't this all have something to do with the increased FSH and my missing period??
Thanks for any help!
Tine
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February 23rd, 2012, 5:03 pm #2

Actually your doctor could not know that because you have to go a full 12 months without your period to be in menopause. So you are just in peri-menopause which is normal for your age. Heck, you might not be in menopause until you are 50! So, I don't think he knows exactly what he is talking about. Your ovaries are working as you have two follies! You still have eggs.

Well, have you tried any acupuncture to help your cycles become more regular again? That may help. And eating really well, eliminating processed foods so your body and hormones can work at their best.

I'm wishing you luck.

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February 23rd, 2012, 5:09 pm #3

Hi girls, joining you from Germany..
already posted in the other forum - but with 42, I'm better off in this one I guess.
My situation: I had regular menses till last December, with ovulation. Then suddenly my period first came really late after 47 days, so I checked my hormones for the first time. Then my cycles just stopped (last one started Dec. 23rd). FSH dashed up from 9 in Dec to 18 in January to 40 this week!!
The doctor said he thinks I went through my complete menopause within those two months and it looks like it is all over. There are really no means of reactivating my ovaries, which have obviously stopped working altogether.
How can this be??? So fast??
He did see one follie on each side, does that mean there is still hope?
Does anyone know what happens to follies when the cycles are too long? Do they die? Are they harmed if they don't grow within the time they are supposed to?
We were just about to do an ICSI after months of trying 'the natural way' with ovulation tests, since my AMH was low in December as well, which was shocking enough. But it looks like we won't even get the chance and everything is over just like this?!
Has anyone else experienced such a fast increase in FSH? Could there be other reasons? Until Dec, I had my period every 25 days
AND, is ist really necessary/sufficient to lower FSH, shoudn't the REASON why FSH is increased be addressed? Since FSH increase is the body's response to ovaries not working?
Before all this happened, I had one bladder infection after the other - but with no bacteria detected and no inflammation. Then my ovaries started hurting (and still do). I went to 3 different pregnancy clinics, noone cared about the pain and the other symptoms.
Can't this all have something to do with the increased FSH and my missing period??
Thanks for any help!
Tine
i think you need a new doctor. it would be extremely unusual for you to go into complete menopause in two months. plus you have follicles and seem to be having ov pains.

you need a new doctor imo. in the meantime start bd'ing every other day.
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February 23rd, 2012, 5:51 pm #4

Actually your doctor could not know that because you have to go a full 12 months without your period to be in menopause. So you are just in peri-menopause which is normal for your age. Heck, you might not be in menopause until you are 50! So, I don't think he knows exactly what he is talking about. Your ovaries are working as you have two follies! You still have eggs.

Well, have you tried any acupuncture to help your cycles become more regular again? That may help. And eating really well, eliminating processed foods so your body and hormones can work at their best.

I'm wishing you luck.
for reproduction in Munich, one of the better clinics we have. He did say it is odd, but said that anything is possible, even a tow-month menopause.
It was one hell of a shock, cried non-stop for two days (no children yet).
I used to have thyroid overfunction and an operation when I was 20. He said my eggs may just have been used up faster.
Plus, I'm stressing myself very much with this baby wish. Might that be a problem, too?
I consulted a homeopath who gave me Sepia C200, which amost knocked me out .. fever, back pain, almost fainted when getting up.. they say that things get worse first in homeopathy.
Plus I'm trying to eat healthier and started yoga classes.
Acupuncture.. not so comfortable with shots and all. But people keep telling me it helps..
Thanks, Tine
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February 23rd, 2012, 6:12 pm #5

i think you need a new doctor. it would be extremely unusual for you to go into complete menopause in two months. plus you have follicles and seem to be having ov pains.

you need a new doctor imo. in the meantime start bd'ing every other day.
I am going to a hormone center tomorrow. We'll see.. Actually, this was the second doctor. The first one told me he didn't want to mess up his success score.
Am I not one of the cases who will be paying lots and lots of money for countless tries?
What could this ov pain mean? It feels like they are trying and trying or something..
Frustrated, Tine
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February 23rd, 2012, 7:56 pm #6

Hi girls, joining you from Germany..
already posted in the other forum - but with 42, I'm better off in this one I guess.
My situation: I had regular menses till last December, with ovulation. Then suddenly my period first came really late after 47 days, so I checked my hormones for the first time. Then my cycles just stopped (last one started Dec. 23rd). FSH dashed up from 9 in Dec to 18 in January to 40 this week!!
The doctor said he thinks I went through my complete menopause within those two months and it looks like it is all over. There are really no means of reactivating my ovaries, which have obviously stopped working altogether.
How can this be??? So fast??
He did see one follie on each side, does that mean there is still hope?
Does anyone know what happens to follies when the cycles are too long? Do they die? Are they harmed if they don't grow within the time they are supposed to?
We were just about to do an ICSI after months of trying 'the natural way' with ovulation tests, since my AMH was low in December as well, which was shocking enough. But it looks like we won't even get the chance and everything is over just like this?!
Has anyone else experienced such a fast increase in FSH? Could there be other reasons? Until Dec, I had my period every 25 days
AND, is ist really necessary/sufficient to lower FSH, shoudn't the REASON why FSH is increased be addressed? Since FSH increase is the body's response to ovaries not working?
Before all this happened, I had one bladder infection after the other - but with no bacteria detected and no inflammation. Then my ovaries started hurting (and still do). I went to 3 different pregnancy clinics, noone cared about the pain and the other symptoms.
Can't this all have something to do with the increased FSH and my missing period??
Thanks for any help!
Tine
And what I've learned is just because someone is a "specialist", it doesn't mean he or she knows it all. I can't tell you how many stories I've heard from women who went to my local fertility clinic that are unbelievable. The mistakes they've made just blows my mind. So, while it is good to put some faith in doctors, frankly I've found that in the fertility business in particular, you have to do your own research and learn from the real experts (the knowledgeable fertility patients).

When was your last FSH level taken? Was it on CD3? If not, I actually wonder if it could have been your body trying to surge. Yes, it could be that your ovaries are being unresponsive and it was your body trying to stimulate follicles, but it could have been a surge also. From what I'm understanding, you haven't had AF since December, so there is no way to know exactly what that level means unless you test E2 (estradiol), LH, and P4 (progesterone) to see what is going on with them all.

Personally, I believe you may have the potential to re-set your cycles if you get a skilled doctor willing to work with you. There isn't a guarantee, but it may be possible.

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February 23rd, 2012, 9:53 pm #7

I am going to a hormone center tomorrow. We'll see.. Actually, this was the second doctor. The first one told me he didn't want to mess up his success score.
Am I not one of the cases who will be paying lots and lots of money for countless tries?
What could this ov pain mean? It feels like they are trying and trying or something..
Frustrated, Tine
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February 24th, 2012, 6:39 am #8

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Thanks, anne
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February 24th, 2012, 6:48 am #9

And what I've learned is just because someone is a "specialist", it doesn't mean he or she knows it all. I can't tell you how many stories I've heard from women who went to my local fertility clinic that are unbelievable. The mistakes they've made just blows my mind. So, while it is good to put some faith in doctors, frankly I've found that in the fertility business in particular, you have to do your own research and learn from the real experts (the knowledgeable fertility patients).

When was your last FSH level taken? Was it on CD3? If not, I actually wonder if it could have been your body trying to surge. Yes, it could be that your ovaries are being unresponsive and it was your body trying to stimulate follicles, but it could have been a surge also. From what I'm understanding, you haven't had AF since December, so there is no way to know exactly what that level means unless you test E2 (estradiol), LH, and P4 (progesterone) to see what is going on with them all.

Personally, I believe you may have the potential to re-set your cycles if you get a skilled doctor willing to work with you. There isn't a guarantee, but it may be possible.
Hi, Karen .. the following were tested

LH 40,00 IU/L
FSH 39,00 IU/L
E2 (Estradiol) 13,00 pg/ml
Progesteron 0,19 ng/ml
Prolaktin 158,00 µIU/ml
TSH 1,40 µIU/ml
Testosteron 0,25 ng/ml
DHEA-S 2,00 µg/ml
Cortisol 154,00 ng/ml

surge.. you mean a menopause 'wave' of sorts?
Actually, I'm a little shocked by how little the doctors really care. I was told to take the pill for a month to force my period to come back. But that wouldn't be a normal period but I would start bleeding since hormones will abruptly be stopped after thee weeks. AND it could put the ovaries in an even longer break.
Will see what the hormone center says. I wrote them a long e-Mail with all my specific questions and they KNOW what I want to have answers to, still gave me an appointment within 2 days.
Still hopeful,
and VERY grateful for all your replies!!!!
Tine
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February 24th, 2012, 2:24 pm #10

Hi girls, joining you from Germany..
already posted in the other forum - but with 42, I'm better off in this one I guess.
My situation: I had regular menses till last December, with ovulation. Then suddenly my period first came really late after 47 days, so I checked my hormones for the first time. Then my cycles just stopped (last one started Dec. 23rd). FSH dashed up from 9 in Dec to 18 in January to 40 this week!!
The doctor said he thinks I went through my complete menopause within those two months and it looks like it is all over. There are really no means of reactivating my ovaries, which have obviously stopped working altogether.
How can this be??? So fast??
He did see one follie on each side, does that mean there is still hope?
Does anyone know what happens to follies when the cycles are too long? Do they die? Are they harmed if they don't grow within the time they are supposed to?
We were just about to do an ICSI after months of trying 'the natural way' with ovulation tests, since my AMH was low in December as well, which was shocking enough. But it looks like we won't even get the chance and everything is over just like this?!
Has anyone else experienced such a fast increase in FSH? Could there be other reasons? Until Dec, I had my period every 25 days
AND, is ist really necessary/sufficient to lower FSH, shoudn't the REASON why FSH is increased be addressed? Since FSH increase is the body's response to ovaries not working?
Before all this happened, I had one bladder infection after the other - but with no bacteria detected and no inflammation. Then my ovaries started hurting (and still do). I went to 3 different pregnancy clinics, noone cared about the pain and the other symptoms.
Can't this all have something to do with the increased FSH and my missing period??
Thanks for any help!
Tine
Hi all..
back from the hormone center. I was explained, as I thought, that I have progesterone and estrogen deficits. So I was given bio-identical substances for a hormone therapy. This is the only thing that makes sense, since it helps restore the overall hormone cycle.
The only thing is.. even though they are bio-identical, the drugs do increase risk of cancer and heart diseases slightly.
Anyone know more about that? I suppose this is more critical in long-term therapies?
Apart from that, I'm happy for now and am hoping to get my cycle restarted. I also asked about Q10, DHEA and those .. He said they do make sense if you have a lack of those substances. Which he tested. Everyone here just takes them because they heard that they worke for someone
We'll see.
Thanks to you and your input!!
tine
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