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Thanks Holly for sharing your experience with me! Thanks for your help!Sorry to hear your woes Joy. I've been there several times thru the last few years (mostly after I started transferring). Always had to go on BCPs to thwart cysts and keep my P4 down prior to cycle start. My ovaries aren't spring chickens anymore and even the lightest script of BCPs was completely shutting my system down (I mean hot flashes every 15 minutes for 4 weeks straight). So, I read up on natural hormones and although our cycles experience both E2 and P4 throughout the month they're more prevalent during certain times. Thus, a pill that contains both is somewhat counterproductive. New methodology on hormone replacement is actually addressing this very issue. There's some good reading out there to confirm this concept that E2 and P4 need to be administered at different times of the cycle in order to maintain healthy hormone balance.
That being said, I was able to fill my script of estradiol patches/dots (0.1mg) and used one patch every 3 days for a total of roughly 14-16 days. THEN, I switched over to PIO (progesterone in oil) shots. You'll have to get a script if you don't have one BUT THIS MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD. It's similar to natural P4 in our bodies and is absorbed better. It's a pain in the butt (literally) but the 1 ml/night really helped. I also took 1 prometrium (similar protocol to post transfer) before bed. I tried the Prometrium by itself the previous month along with ethinyl estradiol cream to no avail.
At cycle start (roughly 4-5 weeks after using this regime) everything was great! AFC was back to where it was 3 years ago (8) and my hormones were all in check except FSH. It was 30 (highest on cycle start ever) but that was improvement from what I'm sure was near 70-100 weeks before. I had two follies already at 10 so it didn't take anytime for my FSH to come down. It was a transfer cycle so didn't retrieve anything on this go around but I sure could of without E2 suppression.
a) Hi Joy, my LH was usually significantly lower than the FSH. Just checking some old data from 2012: one time FSH was 15 and LH was indeed 16, but normally I remember data like what I just found now in my documents: FSH = 50 & LH = 13, FSH = 10 & LH = 2, FSH = 13 & LH = 7. From 2014: FSH = 56 & LH = 24 - normally my LH was significantly lower.Thanks a lot Alma! I guess what my doctor is trying to do is keep me on various doses of bcp both in the luteal and follicular phase so that fsh and especially lh don't get to go very high up. So far i have been on bcp for 40 days! Last Monday it was cd14, fsh 6, lh 10 and e2 5pg. He asked me to take half a pill now so that my ovaries get more stimulated and hopefully something starts to grow. I am worried if they will pull through.
a)May i please ask-when you fsh was in the 20s, 30s etc was your LH that sky high also?
b) did you try to get the eggs when LH was high throughout your follicular phase?( eg over 15) or did you let those follicles go?
Thank you Alma as always for helping me out!
Joy,Hello guys! Can you please help? In February both FSH and LH were 30 so my doctor put me on BCP to lower them especially LH. FSH came down pretty fast but LH was stubborn so I ended up taking bcp for 3+ week( 25 days). By day 35 I was oversuppressed with FSH and LH being 1 and E2 undetectable.
We stopped the bcp to get a period. On CD2 LH jumped already to 17 and E2 remained undetectable. So the doctor asked me to take 1/2 bcp every other day to lower LH. Today CD7 FSH and LH are 20 and e2 still undetectable! Unfortunately my e2 got stuck to undetectable.
The doctor believes that we should try to lower LH once again so I was asked to start one bcp daily for one week.
Any thoughts? Anyone have a similar experience? I read somewhere that older ovaries may never recover from bcp oversuppression so I am worried.
What do you guys think?