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Jet
Conqueror of the Cinnabar Gym
Conqueror of the Cinnabar Gym
Joined: May 27th, 2011, 8:56 pm

August 25th, 2017, 5:27 pm #761

[+] reposting this update so you dont have to go looking for it on the previous page, but there are some awesome comments back there so i encourage you to check those out after you read the update if thats something you're into!

Episode 53 is up, the last chargestone episode, big phew!
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shout out to eworm and my friend yatt, who convinced me on the ninjas
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[+] Aozora
i accept your tears, they will give me strength! XD

i'm glad the lack of N battles is working well for you, i pretty much havent included any of them so far and i dunno if it's cheating or not but it works so much better without them.
[+] eworm
thanks for the thoughtful commentary as always!

i like that you found the point Juniper brought up about N's age to be impactful, because in the early drafts she was just gonna shout the YOU CANT FORCE YOUR IDEALS ONTO OTHERS line first, but it was such a generically stiff line that it didnt feel right. i like her getting frustrated at N as an adult would to a child, it feels more human, and as you pointed out, something not everyone thinks to point out. although…i have a feeling in the games N is a lot older then I made him out to be. >.>

dont worry about the triad, i would have just went with my original script and left them out entirely if i couldnt think of something interesting to do with them. they still wont play a huge part, but i dont intend to only use them for convenience. i must say, this turned out to be a much better end to the scene than my original plan, which was to just have N run away like a pussy.

I never played XY, so i have no idea who trevor is. sorry :/

I wish i could reply to every little thing you say, but most of it would just be me pointing and shouting yes! It's all very helpful going forward. thanks!
[+] Deeforty-five
thanks a bunch! I've always been fond of the goofy mentor gets serious trope, and juniper makes it easy to pull off XD

i try very hard to balance the light and dark, because the world shouldnt be so…BLACK AND WHITE *shot*

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videogameboy
Conqueror of the Fuchsia Gym
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Joined: January 1st, 2013, 4:29 am

August 26th, 2017, 8:52 am #762

Yeah, I think game!N is older than a lot of us assumed him to be. I remember reading somewhere that he's in his early 20s and being shocked.
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Jet
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August 26th, 2017, 1:54 pm #763

@videogameboy
Yeah, I know he's visually older then Ash and his friends in the anime at the very least. More of a man-child then just a straight up child, but somehow that doesnt appeal to me as much XD
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eworm
Conqueror of the Sootopolis Gym
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Joined: January 20th, 2012, 11:50 pm

August 27th, 2017, 3:51 pm #764

Oh, the twenties are still absolutely childhood for changing-the-world-into-an-utopia ideas.

Lady, you're missing Pokémon games and you still refuse to open up a Patreon or a donation box? I find that offensive.
Seriously though, I never really think about it, but seeing as my own comic is very Pokéreference-heavy, it's a big shame to have readers who can't enjoy all of it. And well, Pokémon games are super fun in general, all of them.
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piyostoria
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Joined: July 14th, 2011, 2:40 am

September 8th, 2017, 1:49 am #765

YO I finally read the newest update and HOT DANG, THAT WAS GREAT. Where do I start?? I love the funny beginning. Love how Juniper pointed out how young N is. Of course, every young adult would probably take offense to that xD you can argue young does not equal incompetent! I love how Jet's pokemon pretty much answered for her. Jet don't cry ;;w;; And great ending scene. Shows what a threat N is.

GOSH I'M JUST FANGIRLING HERE Thank you for this update I'll be here sitting until you grace us with more ;w;
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Jet
Conqueror of the Cinnabar Gym
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September 27th, 2017, 3:44 am #766



Episode 54 is out!
Let's talk about our feeeeeelings!
[+] twitch stream announcement
So first off I wanted to announce my new twitch channel! I'm trying to stream every Saturday at 8pm EST, it's a great time where I get to talk with the chat while working on stuff. Currently I'm working on an animation commission, nothing pokemon related although I'd be more than happy to talk pokemon stuff while I work. Anyway, just thought I'd let y'all know in case you wanted to join my little stream for a Saturday evening. (that said, I wont be streaming on october 7th because I gotta fly to california for a friend's wedding!)
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It's been a long time since the pokemon got a chance to really talk and discuss their thoughts on what's been going on. Jet may be struggling with some moral issues right now but her pokemon have a simpler perspective on their situation. In the games, N speaks with the first member of your party after you beat the gym, so I felt it was important to get their voice in before that scene so what they say there doesnt come out of nowhere.
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@eworm
it's not that i cant afford the games, it's i dont really have the time to commit. XD maybe some day

@piyo
i'm sure anyone would take offense to having their age used against them, it's not really a valid argument anyway since age doesnt necessarily devalue your opinions, but i think Juniper was mostly annoyed at his closed mindedness and refusal to discuss things at all, and the fact that he's barely a young adult just makes his attitude all the more infuriating. But anyways, I'm so glad you like it so far!
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Conqueror of the Azalea Gym
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September 27th, 2017, 5:25 am #767

Huh...Firedog seems extra mopey this update. Then again, it seems to be a mopey time for everybody, so I might just be imagining it.
Don't think you know a thing about a thing you know nothing about

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Last updated 7/31/18 with Intermission Eight! In which we're all concerned about a giant lizard.
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deeforty-five
Conqueror of the Ecruteak Gym
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September 27th, 2017, 9:57 pm #768

Juniper's being super cool in this update! I like seeing this more serious side to her. You draw her really well, too. And that Audino was super cute!

Good to turn the lens back to the pokemon. I like seeing them and hearing what they have to say. July's coming into her own! I do wish the poor Basculin (can't even remember the name atm, ugh) had a little more personality other than "chilling in a bowl." I wanna know their opinion!
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Jet
Conqueror of the Cinnabar Gym
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Joined: May 27th, 2011, 8:56 pm

October 24th, 2017, 4:35 pm #769



Episode 55 posted

No update in November as usual, but I'll still be streaming on Twitch every Saturday (except for the 18th) so if you wanna hang out, ask questions, chat, here's the link: Twitch
[+] Twitter
Not only do I have a Twitch, but I also got the Twitters. Well, more like I resurrected my Twitter account from three years ago which I never really used. I'm gonna try to be more active on that, I'll be posting updates to this comic, announcements about my stream, and anything else I can think of. If you got a Twitter here's a link: Twitter
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I hope you liked this episode because it was so boring to work on. Mostly a transition episode before the fun stuff, and I cant wait to get to Skyla.

Still, a sad departure for the cutie patootie that was Zoie. Something so small must be hard to keep track of. I'm assuming there's a range that the pokeball can call back pokemon from, you cant call them through walls for instance, also assuming there isnt some high tech tracking system going on unless your pokemon is chipped (like maybe they can track a pokeball but not the pokemon itself?).

Technically Tiny was boxed for this whole part, because obviously in game I couldnt walk around with more than 6 pokemon. But I didnt want to stop everything and show him meeting Lil'Dog and Jet's mom and all that, so I kept him around. I think it's pretty clear at this point that this world doesnt have the same strictness when it comes to the 6 pokemon rule, maybe it's only a thing during battles, like how against Elesa Jet could only use three pokemon, the max number of pokemon for any battle is 6 but you can walk around with as many as you want outside of battle. I like to think that's the case.
[+] Let's do a Q&A!
Everyone gets to do a Q&A with their pokemon and stuff, so I wanna do one too! Since there wont be an episode in November I'm wondering if we could make one happen? From now until the end of November, If you have any questions for me or any character in this nuzlocke, dead or alive, feel free to send me a pm with the subject Q&A, and I'll pick and choose some to draw throughout the month. Thanks!
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eworm
Conqueror of the Sootopolis Gym
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Joined: January 20th, 2012, 11:50 pm

October 24th, 2017, 10:32 pm #770

Jet wrote:Everyone gets to do a Q&A with their pokemon and stuff, so I wanna do one too! Since there wont be an episode in November I'm wondering if we could make one happen? From now until the end of November, If you have any questions for me or any character in this nuzlocke, dead or alive, feel free to send me a pm with the subject Q&A
Oh. Oh, you poor, poor bastard. When taking the last breath before drowning to death in the PMs, just remember, you have only yourself to blame for this. You poor bastard you.


Anyway, eworm is back and oh gee, two pages worth of essaying, so let me get right to it.

Is the Extravaganza here yet? Because we already have the winner in the Best Supporting Character category, so might as well get the formality over with. Seriously, this Juniper of yours is reaching perfection with every update and with every update keeps getting better. These two statements can't be true at once, of course, yet they are. Bad Jet! Stop breaking logic! No treats for you!

"You can't fix the world's mistakes out of guilt over your own". Dayum, put that on a fortune cookie. And the promptly announce that fortune cookies are no longer synonymous with cheap pseudo-advice, 'cause this one's solid. And it makes me think about how Jet and N very nearly became the exact same through being the exact opposite. N never got to experience the harshness of trainer choices for himself, never got to truly be the part of this world, only being shown and told about some of the results, the bad ones. And because he doesn't get it, he wants to change it. Meanwhile, Jet almost joined him in the same goal from the exact opposite side - she committed the mistakes, made the bad choices and - as Juniper points out in this scene - forgot about the other side, about the positive elements of being a trainer, of living with Pokémon. Overthinking as usual, but it's truly incredible how similar, yet different N and Jet can be in so many ways. Now if only N had his own Juniper (*coughLil'Dogcough*), maybe things would be different.

Or if Jet had her own Ghetsis. Oo, that would be interesting... Though I suppose N has become that in the Chargestone Cave... Wow, somebody needs to make him realize that.

Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, gushing. And of course no gush sesh is complete without mentioning Bianca the gush geyser. Gushzer. Pouty Bianca was great, yet among the rightful outburst she didn't mention the hiker thing and I'm not letting it go, she has clearly repressed it deeply and it can't be healthy in the long run, she didn't even touch her drink (that she didn't have until that Audino took it from her), that girl needs help before it's too late. This is what happens when you remove the overprotective dad, you monster.

Is that a heart on that Audino's nurse cap, oh my God, that's the cutest gosh darn thing. Unlike that terrifying Swanna, what happened to that poor thing, N was right all along.


Let me point out that RedEye's Ability is clearly Heatproof, otherwise Sir Francis would have long boiled him alive with his flaming scarf beard.

I like Jet still having her doubts. It would have been all too easy to make N doubt her, then Juniper clear those doubts away and bam, character development over. Instead both sides gave her some food for thought and she has to digest it on her own. And the digestion process is complex and takes time. I could take this metaphor further, but I'm gonna stop before I start describing Jet's eventual maturity as actual poop, oops, too late.

The Pokémon also get some more screentime and I like the hint at an awesome July vs Skyla fight. Hope she knows some Rock moves by this point or this Swanna might be a problem. Please don't make it that bizarre Swanna from the Center, this would undermine the epic Gym fight so bad, but you've already set a precedence with Clay's Palpitoad, oh no, you're totally gonna do this, aren't you, N was right all along.

Major cares not for your emotional turmoils, just keep that hat on and it's all good. He's gonna just casually wreck Ghetsis in the climax, isn't he.

And then wondering about what to do with her being a trainer doubts, Jet suddenly thinks of Cheren. That's a nice touch - here's a guy who most definitely has no doubts about that - and that's what his weakness is, his blind dedication to the otherwise good goal. Wait, is that guy also N's mirror image? They're both convinced they're doing the right thing and rush to their respective end goals with reckless abandon, even though they desire severely contrasting things... Stop making every character reflect N in some way! What's next, is Bianca gonna have like a dad who wants her to live a sheltered life or... some... thing...

Jet used Mind Blown

The panel right after Jet is challenged by Random Trainer has Major disappear for a sec, only to reappear immediately after. You even make sure to put in little mistakes like this to avoid alienating your readers with your perfection, how perfect of you.

The conclusion Jet reaches (perhaps temporarily but still) about battling only other trainers and not wild Pokémon seems like both a good compromise and a possible "make it harder" additional Nuzlocke rule. It actually makes me wonder if you did that for a while around that point in the game, perhaps worrying about being overleveled or something. But probably I'm reading too much into it.

"Now we just gave to win", typo. And DripDrop's line I think was supposed to read "Sploosh", not "slpoosh". Again, how perfect of you.

Let me get this straight. Jet reaches the conclusion she's gonna be a responsible and wise trainer. Then she immediately gets into a fight against a Pokémon the Ground type Gym Leader used against her. Then she decides to use Electric attacks against it. Unless you're planning to compound even more guilt onto Jet in order to force her to ask for help from somebody more calculated, analytical and knowledgeable (and yes, I do mean she should train under Cheren and travel with him for a while, DO IT), then you really picked a wrong way to portray Zoie's apparent death. That one was 100% Jet's forgetfulness and carelessness and she has no excuse to make. I suspect this is what actually happened in the game (in which case what is wrong with you), but you not taking the artistic liberties by changing Palpitoad into something else has some actual story and character consequences and I just hope you realize this. Seriously though, Cheren.

Vomiting Woopers, is it Friday already, DripDrop?

Firedog's remark about how reasonable dropping out seems at this point highlights an interesting point - the lack of a goal to the journey. Technically Jet is aiming for the League, but she's hardly devoted to being the Champ like Cheren. She's mostly just trying to have fun - and with all that happened, continuing seems actually counter-productive to that vague aim. Even stopping Team Plasma is a) not something she's sure is right to do at this point and b) something Alder (among others) is already working on, she's hardly necessary. So without a defined purpose, it really doesn't feel like Jet should continue... Hm...

Also, I like Firedog referring to Sir Francis as "big guy", when he started with calling him "kid" or just "Tepig" way back then. They did not get along, now look at them all... tolerating each other... Yeah. Puts a tear in your eye, doesn't it.

Zoie's death explains how little development she's had (like Princess before her and the traded Minccino whose name escapes me), but I'm still waiting for RedEye to start growing into his own. A clone of Major's "absent and silent" thing is unnecessary and boring, especially when there's so much potential hilarity in that fish bowl. Again, propelling himself with skillful blasts of water, jumping out only to bite-and-run, I'm really fond of this cartoon-esque idea and even if you don't go with it, I just want the fish to get some personality or unique quirkiness. And then Skyla kills him and it becomes clear no new Pokémon is allowed to live
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Jet
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October 25th, 2017, 2:06 am #771

So good to have you back eworm!

So so glad Juniper is well received, and your analysis of how similar Jet and N are is very interesting, especially when you bring up Cheren later, I didnt realize how much the characters were becoming reflections of each other. That thing about Bianca's dad made me spit my drink tho, YOU sir are the one blowing my mind here!

N kinda is playing the role of Ghetsis for Jet, which means Jet will probably become his Juniper by the end. If i do this right at least.

also, way to dump some heavy poop metaphors on us XD
I also dont remember who i beat skyla with, but it would make sense for july to get her chance to shine. still…*franticly digs around for notes*

Thanks for pointing out some mistakes. I went ahead and fixed them, because who needs to be relatable to your readers when you can be perfect! Tho i will point out the drink is Jet's, Bianca didnt have anything and the Audino was taking away just one glass, which was Jet's

I'm sure there were any number of ways I could portray Zoie's death, and certainly choosing to go by what happened in the game is laziness on my part, but Jet really isnt a good trainer, she's made it this far because she just happens to have really strong pokemon, but whenever she tries to be smart about something it usually backfires. Also in my defense, Lance the dragon master used a gyarados, and Cress used a lillipup, plus I have a bad memory, and I kinda assumed maybe palpitoad was just a water type that could learn ground moves. I never claimed to be a good trainer myself either. And Dont you worry about Cheren, Twist Mountain is coming up soon, which means Jet and Cheren are going to have some spelunking to do, during which they may meet up with a familiar face???

And yeah, you picked up everything I wanted you to about firedog's remarks. There really is no drive for Jet to keep going at this point, something I struggled with a LOT while writing these last few episodes, and my hope is that before Twist mountain Jet will have a new goal to strive towards. Still, I never understood why, of all the active adults in the Unova region, does the fate of the light stone fall to a young child who only just started training.

I've been getting a LOT of requests to further develop Redeye's character, so by golly I'm gonna try! I think already just from his expressions he's set himself apart from Major just a little bit, but you're right, there's so much more potential there!

As always, thanks for your thoughtful comments, they are very helpful and encouraging!
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eworm
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October 25th, 2017, 11:43 am #772

So good to be back!

Fair enough points about the other specialists using mons from outside their type, but as far the glass goes, I'm still somewhat confused. I would have assumed the drink was Jet's, because we do see her glass in the panels before that one - but the glass the Audino takes away is full, while Jet's was already empty and the little puddle of drink left was a different color. I dunno, is it another little mistake, drawing the drink in the glass that should be empty, or did Jet order another drink to try a new flavor and then decided it tastes like a Palpitoad's Muddy Water? Either way it struck me as weird. Because I'm a weirdo like that.

As far as having a new goal for Jet goes, just have the Triad kidnap her mom or something. Though I guess that would only make sense after she's chosen to be the counterpart hero, Ghetsis could do this to try to make Jet surrender or something. Why, yes, Lil'Dog could indeed tail the kidnappers afterwards and eventually land in N's castle, I dunno why you would bring this up though, it's not like I myself am brainstorming on this idea every chance I get for reasons even I don't fully understand, it's not that good, honestly
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Jet
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October 25th, 2017, 12:16 pm #773

Oooooooh, haha, no that's just the red bowl the pokemon were eating out of showing through the glass. sorry that was confusing XD
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eworm
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October 25th, 2017, 1:33 pm #774

Jet wrote:Oooooooh, haha, no that's just the red bowl the pokemon were eating out of showing through the glass.
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Jet
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October 26th, 2017, 12:19 pm #775

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October 26th, 2017, 2:02 pm #776

It was inevitable.
It was obvious.
It is finally here and it is glorious.

The Nuzlocke cinematic universe.
The first installment, "Slip of the Tongue: Pi&Pea's Jet-Black Story", is a must-see.
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November 14th, 2017, 3:19 am #777

Doing a Q&A for my characters this month, if you have a question for one of my characters send me a PM!
[+] Q&A This one's for TuTu
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deeforty-five
Conqueror of the Ecruteak Gym
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December 2nd, 2017, 9:31 pm #778

I'm back! And just in time to miss Q&A month, awwwww ;w;

I feel bad for poor Jet, losing her pokemon like that, but Firedog has a point--despite her good heart, she's made some rookie mistakes like not recalling her Herdier and such. That said, I don't know if that's enough to paint her as incompetent.

And I just love your expressions as usual!
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December 5th, 2017, 5:34 am #779

heh heh, welcome back deeforty-five! sorry you missed the Q&A

I dunno if i should keep posting the Q&A answers here, so if anyone wants to see them check out my deviant art

Bianca's Servine
Lil'dog
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December 5th, 2017, 9:34 am #780

Lil'Dog drops the cute and I'm all:

Definitely keep posting the Q&A pages here. God knows I'm following your dA account for the rest of my life, but those poor unfortunate souls (this is where we all start humming Disney) who aren't, you need to keep up to speed. Also because you need to keep bumping this thread up during the Extravaganza nominating time - we're taking gold this year, remember?

Also, going back to something in your previous comment:
Jet wrote:Still, I never understood why, of all the active adults in the Unova region, does the fate of the light stone fall to a young child who only just started training.
I actually do have a headcanon about this one. Remember how in the games the protagonist chases Team Plasma with Burgh and Lenora into the Pinwheel Forest while Cheren and Bianca stay behind in the Nacrene Museum to guard the remaining stuff? The same Museum Zekrom/Reshiram is in, in the form of a Dark/Light Stone? I like to think that the dragon overhears Bianca and Cheren talking about the protagonist (assessing from their conversation that they're talented and ambitious, unlike Bianca, yet have empathy and restraint, unlike Cheren) and then decides to make this person the new hero. Because I love the idea of these two indirectly choosing the new Hero like this.

Just FYI. Like with all my other ideas, I'm not forcing you to put it in your comic, but hey, you expressed confusion about a plot point in a Pokémon game and I'm a deep well of headcanons, so here you go. A possible Watsonian explanation.

The Doylist one would be that the protagonist of a game needs to have stuff to do, I guess, but why would we be satisfied with just that.
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