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August 18th, 2017, 12:19 pm #31

i was talking with someone the other day and they were amazed I had a cd drive in my PC. How on earth would I listen to cds without a drive :)
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August 18th, 2017, 2:01 pm #32

Cabanon wrote:of course we're talking about console here since on PC it's another ball game as there are flash sales on Steam like crazy.
Sony and Microsoft also have sales on digital games for their consoles. For example, on my Xbox 360 I got the Perfect Dark remaster for $1.99, SoulCalibur V for $3.74 and Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition for free. That's an average of just $1.91 per game which is less than what you usually pay just in shipping for physical games bought on Amazon or eBay.

Physical collecting made a lot more sense when you could find classic games locally but since that's drying up it's hard to imagine that the hobby can sustain itself much longer.

On the positive side, it appears that the exponential proliferation of emulation devices like the Raspberry Pi are actually driving down the asking price on some physical games. I guess the old saying is true; "for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction". :)
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August 18th, 2017, 10:21 pm #33

I don't do "emulation" for this very reason. I want physical media that I can touch and feel. And I love touching and feeling carts. NES, Famicom, SNES, Super Famicom, PC Engine, Turbografx, Sega Genesis, that is the focus of my collecting and gaming. Handhelds, right in there from the GBP to the 3DS and all of the other guys. Cart based gaming with the carts, added plus if there are books & case.
You just don't get things like this with a digital download, (Just a small sampling, but you should get the idea)






And I value the games on physical media more than any digital download. Is that just me or does anyone else have this quirk? To Me, it is just part of the whole gaming experience. It would be very difficult for me to fork out $60 or $80 dollars for something I cannot see or touch. It has been under the $10 range in which I have purchased something off of VC or an Indi game. I love the collecting. And that is a part of all this for me. I did not have to think twice about this. I have felt this way from the beginning and I have not wavered.

I know with some people their movies and games, both, are digital and they are perfectly happy. Not my MO.

Sorry for mentioning the "E" word.
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August 19th, 2017, 2:42 am #34

Grizzmeister wrote:
Cabanon wrote:of course we're talking about console here since on PC it's another ball game as there are flash sales on Steam like crazy.
Sony and Microsoft also have sales on digital games for their consoles. For example, on my Xbox 360 I got the Perfect Dark remaster for $1.99, SoulCalibur V for $3.74 and Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition for free. That's an average of just $1.91 per game which is less than what you usually pay just in shipping for physical games bought on Amazon or eBay.

Physical collecting made a lot more sense when you could find classic games locally but since that's drying up it's hard to imagine that the hobby can sustain itself much longer.

On the positive side, it appears that the exponential proliferation of emulation devices like the Raspberry Pi are actually driving down the asking price on some physical games. I guess the old saying is true; "for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction". :)
yes you're right, but these sales are years after their initial release while PC have them just months after.
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August 19th, 2017, 1:40 pm #35

Finally thing is a really don't mind streaming films and tv shows, it helps me save on space and I guess I don't care for that as much as I do games and music.
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August 19th, 2017, 3:04 pm #36

Have DVR's gotten any better in the last few years, or are those a thing of the past?
I used to quickly max out the space, then a power outage or glitch would wipe out whatever it wanted, and then all i got were excuses.
Anything that the cable company offers here is a complete rip off.
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August 20th, 2017, 1:40 pm #37

Physical copies will disappear, but I don't think it'll be anytime soon.

Just look at movies. Most companies still release their movies on DVD, a system almost 20 years old, pretty much surpassing the VHS, and people still buy them (which i'm so surprised at, with it's SD quality). And let's not forget about bluray, even though that didn't catch on as much as i expected (pretty much 90% are PS3 owners), but that's a different story altogether.

However, the biggest reason that it won't go away soon is space.
While most indy games are pretty small, big games (on the consoles anyway) take up so much space. Even though PS4 and the likes come with several TB build in, after downloading just a handful of AAA titles it'll be full (and let's not forget about average download-speed). Balancing out all pros and cons, it's just way more convenient to buy a physical copy at the moment, and publishers know that too.

It will perhaps change in the future, but even though HDs become bigger and cheaper, at the same time the games get larger too.
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August 21st, 2017, 1:23 pm #38

Vaettur wrote:However, the biggest reason that it won't go away soon is space.
While most indy games are pretty small, big games (on the consoles anyway) take up so much space.
It amazes me how inexpensive storage is nowadays and how it just keeps getting cheaper everyday. For example, a Western Digital 3 Terabyte external drive compatible with the PS4 can usually be found for less than $100.

I have all my original Wii Virtual Console games stored on a 2 Gigabyte SD card that I bought for less than 3 dollars. If memory serves, I believe I still have more space on that card if I want to add even more games.

That just blows my mind that I can store the entire N64 library on something the size of a postage stamp. When the N64 launched 20 plus years ago you probably would have been laughed at for even suggesting such a thing. Now we even have smaller micro SD cards that allow Raspberry Pi's to store complete libraries for a multitude of different consoles. I wonder where we'll be in 20 years from now with respect to storage?
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August 21st, 2017, 2:11 pm #39

Love the comments of Retro Junkie and others on the appeal of physical games. 100% agree.

That said, see I do think physical will disappear sooner rather than later. Look at the Switch. All that is left of physical is a tiny game card and ill-fitting retail boxes with NO manuals or papers of any sort. And the game card, as small as it is, is really the anti-thesis of the Switch concept of gaming on the go. I really think the next hybrid console (be it a Nintendo or other) will swap out a card player for hard drive capacity. But that's just my fairly uneducated guess.
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October 6th, 2017, 3:39 pm #40

With the recent news that Nintendo plans to :pottymouth: down the Wii Shop Channel in early 2019, the future of collecting might actually be in storing WAD's, ROM's and ISO's. ^_^

Who really knows what the future holds for physical video game collecting because the market can easily be turned on its head if speculators and scalpers drop out.
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