The Dojo - N64 Fighting Game Discussion

ItalianBaptist
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2:57 PM - Feb 08, 2017 #1

All the fun of MMA but nobody gets hurt! Discuss the fighting games of the n64 here :)

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Of all the video game genres out there, my favorite has to be fighting. I did martial arts growing up so I can enjoy either the technical nature of it or the fast paced action and it's really fun both to play and to watch. I'd definitely like to be more involved in the fighting game community if I could.

As noted whenever Glenn Plant N64 reviews a fighting game on his YouTube channel, the n64 as a whole is not particularly known for the genre. On the other hand, either in spite of this or perhaps because of this, the N64 gamer saw a lot of attempts at creativity and twists on the standard fighter formula that is worth any member of the fighting game community to at least check out. So what if we never officially got Street Fighter or Tekken? (ok it's kind of a big deal but still...) I'd like this thread to be a celebration of what the N64 developers were able to accomplish in this arena (pun somewhat intended).

Personally, I'm not gonna be talking about the M-rated fighting games like Mortal Kombat, War Gods and Bio Freaks but don't let me stop you if they're good games. I played War Gods. It's not.

Right now the only fighting game I have unfortunately is Smash Bros. but here are some of the other ones I'm interested in.

Fighter's Destiny series - one of the most technical games on the system, I've heard really good things about it

Flying Dragon - this is probably the one that would satisfy my traditional fighting game fix the most on the system, again I've heard a lot of praise

Xena: The Talisman of Fate - the closest thing we have to the Soul series on the N64? This one's gotten some mixed opinions but it has its fans.

Rakuga Kids - on the more expensive side, worth importing?

Killer Instinct - I really don't know a whole lot about the series but I love the combo breaker concept. Is it gory like Mortal Kombat or what?

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4:34 PM - Feb 08, 2017 #2

I'll gladly talk about N64 fighting games more but I'm in a car right now so I don't have much time but 2 games I would recommend aside from Smash Brothers are the original Fighter's Destiny and to a lesser extent Rakuga Kids.


Fighter's Destiny is the cream of the crop when it comes to N64 Fighters
I wrote a full review for it on this site as well.
http://s9.zetaboards.com/Nintendo_64_Fo ... 054/1/#new
It has original gamplay, smooth frame rate on all but one stage, responsive and customizable controls. It unfortunately has a really harsh difficulty curve for beginners with moves you have to unlock and characters to unlock in challenges that are straight up unfair for 99% of players. I wish more people liked it but hopefully it's popularity will increase in the future. While EnvyFox does like the sequal I would always recommend the original because Fighter Destiny 2 has lag a multiple stages,a more tedious mode for unlocking moves and random stat modifiers to customer characters so 2 people with all the moves unlocked could never have a competitive match, and new characters that don't have as much moveset diversity as the original game. Also it has the most boring fighting game announcer ever.


Rakuga Kids is just a decent game. Very decent with A+ visuals and an awesome high quality surfer rock soundtrack l. I basically wrote a review for Rakuga Kids here where the only criticisms I had were how you have to leave the game turned on for many hours unlock characters and options
http://s9.zetaboards.com/Nintendo_64_Fo ... 9&t=420579
It's a really simplified version of something like Street Fighter Alpha. Most people say it is floaty and yeah it is slow at first because all the characters have at least a double jump and you are supposed to use defense magic and throws to keep people on the ground. It takes getting used to but it is better than pretty much all the other 3rd party 2d fighters on the system. The menu text in the ntsc-j version is all English so that's why it costs so much to import but I'd say it's worth it. Don't treat it like a tournament level fighter just go into it expecting a fun little distraction and you'll have fun.

Also War Gods is a bit rubbish because it was made to test the new engine that they were going to use for Mortal Kombat 4. It's like another Stuntman or Tonic Trouble situation.


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5:57 PM - Feb 08, 2017 #3

I like Killer Instinct Gold a hell of a lot.

I'm even more biased these days because of how well the reboot of the series on XboxOne has gone and how far they have done with those characters and added layers and layers of backstory and new characters and yeah...
I'm a bit biased about it. ?

I enjoy Mortal Kombat Trilogy probably more than I should for its silly fun and good multi-player memories and pick up and play pleasure.
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10:04 PM - Feb 08, 2017 #4

I'm with Cat, Killer Instinct Gold and Mortal Kombat Trilogy are my favorite fighting games on the N64. Gold is good even as a single-player game while MKT is only enjoyable as a 2-player experience since the AI is so brutal at times.

Honorable mention goes to Mace: The Dark Age which is also fun against a human opponent.
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11:50 PM - Feb 08, 2017 #5

Here is a list of all the N64 fighting games that I know of, not counting Wrestling and Boxing games

The E indicates that it was console exclusive, not including modern day rereleases


Nintendo 64 Fighting Games

Bio F.R.E.A.K.S.
ClayFighter 63 1/3 [E]
ClayFighter Sculptors Cut [E]
Custom Robo [E]
Custom Robo V2 [E]
Dark Rift [E]
Deadly Arts ( G.A.S.P Fighters' NEXTreme ) [E]
Dual Heroes [E]
Fighter's Destiny [E]
Fighter Destiny 2 [E]
Flying Dragon [E]
Killer Instinct Gold [E]
Last Legion UX [E]
Mace The Dark Age [ Console Exclusive ]
Mortal Kombat 4
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Powerpuff Girls Chemical X-Traction
Rakuga Kids [E]
SD Hiryu no Ken Densetsu ( Flying Dragon 2 ) [E]
Super Robot Spirits [E]
Super Smash Bros. [E]
Tom and Jerry Fists of Furry [E] (War of Whiskers is an updated version, enough that I say it's exclusive)
Transformers Beast Wars Transmetals
War Gods
Xena Warriors Princess The Talisman of Fate [E]

Total = 25

If I have one positive it's that most of the games are exclusives even to this day. But many of them such as Fighters Destiny 1-2, Flying Dragon 1-2, ClayFighter 63 1/3 and Sculptors Cut are sequels that are so similar it's hard to call them new games so there is less variety on display here than at first glance.

I have not played all of these games, including big ones like Killer Instinct or Mortal Kombat Trilogy which clearly have fans. I am interested in some of the Japanese exclusives, specifically the updated version of Flying Dragon which only includes a revamped SD arcade mode. I've heard good things about Custom Robo and Xena Warriors is also much more fun than you would expect. Overall not a great library but there are a few fun ones on here amongst the stinkers. Even some of the Stinkers can be fun in small doses. Nothing is saving Powerpuff Girls or Transformers though. I refuse to believe any of you cheecky monkeys actually like those games.

Funny story, I actually played Mortal Kombat on N64 many years ago but left my cartridge out in a field near my house. That was nearly 15 years ago now so either someone found it, the game got swept away by the rain into the nearby creek, or it's still there buried in dirt. I'll probably never find it but I've always thought about trying. I'm just too lazy to go look. I've been wanting to play that game again some time soon because I remember it being fun.


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2:00 AM - Feb 10, 2017 #6

I really enjoy the N64 collection of fighters. This is my collection and I did leave out the Wrestling and Boxing games.

My N64 Fighting game ratings.

1. Super Smash Bros
2. Last Legion UX
3. Custom Robo
4. RakugaKids
5. Fighter Destiny 2 / Fighters Destiny (3D)
6. Flying Dragon 2 / Flying Dragon
7. Killer Instinct Gold
8. Mace the Dark Age (3D)
9. Super Robot Spirits
10. Mortal Kombat Trilogy
11. Xena Warrior Princess (3D)
12. Clay Fighters 63 1/3
13. Dark Rift (3D)
14. Tom and Jerry Fists of Furry
15. War Gods (3D) “Needs tweaking, unfinished feel.”
16. Transformers Beast Wars: Transmetals (3D) “Needs tweaking, unfinished feel.”
17. Deadly Arts (3D) “Needs tweaking, unfinished feel.”
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2:20 AM - Feb 10, 2017 #7

Thanks Retro Junkie I forgot about Last Legion UX, it reminds me of a Dreamcast game i can't remember the name of for the life of me. An English Translation for Last Legion just wrapped up a few weeks ago so I really should sit down and give it a try soon. Also I'm glad to see you rank Rakuga Kids highly. That game makes me happy. I'm not sure if any other n64 game has as much charm as Rakuga Kids

Something I noticed today was that the game shows at least 2 characters, a skateboarder and a UFO, in the credits that I assume were planned to be in the sequal. Seemed like the developers were pretty excited about it so they showed us some of their work early. Shame that it never materialized.


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2:35 AM - Feb 10, 2017 #8

Shellshocker18 wrote:Something I noticed today was that the game shows at least 2 characters, a skateboarder and a UFO, in the credits that I assume were planned to be in the sequal. Seemed like the developers were pretty excited about it so they showed us some of their work early. Shame that it never materialized.
I'm not entirely sure that they are not in this game as secret characters...
It would be nice to play the PAL version.

RetroJunkie also made a nice list. There are several on this list that are an artform to witness on a high level if you can get 2 people who are equally matched!

Mortal Kombat Trilogy and KI GOLD are the ones that stand out the most in my opinion.
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2:48 AM - Feb 10, 2017 #9

No64DD wrote:I'm not entirely sure that they are not in this game as secret characters...
It would be nice to play the PAL version.
Wouldn't that be something. New characters unlocked in N64 fighting games after 19 years. I actually had the same thought of maybe they had to be unlocked by beating the story mode with all characters or on the highest CPU difficulty without dropping a round. For a moment in my head I wondered how rad I would feel if I was the discoverer. But I imagine that if the people ripping the game sprites over in the spriters resource haven't found anything they than the chances of these elusive characters existing in playable form are pretty nill.

I've actually been playing the PAL version, converted into ntsc format. It runs as perfectly as the Japanese version with the exception of the load times but I haven't noticed any differences between the two. I guess it's hard to tell with games this old and uncharted


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2:54 AM - Feb 10, 2017 #10

Well, i'll say this...
If you leave the game on for a few days, it unlocks a cheat!
How wierd is that?!
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