Shellshocker18
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3:03 AM - Feb 10, 2017 #11

Yeah I used a gameshark but you apparently have to leave the game on for 30 hours to unlock everything but most people report that it takes longer. Maybe leaving the game on for 20 years unlocks the last 2 characters? So elusive that not even the gameshark can catch them.


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5:18 AM - Feb 10, 2017 #12

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11:38 AM - Feb 10, 2017 #13

I bet he would have loved to be a Rakuga Kids character, not as a doodle child but just as himself.

Well, on the subject of Fighting games, Mace The Dark Age seems okay but playing against the Cpu opponents is brutal even on the easiest difficulty. The combat is okay but a bit janky then what I remember from Mk4. The executions are also really wimpy. It I guess Mk has desensatised me. Also I hate when console fighting games have time limits on the character select screen. I'm at home the timer is unnecessary.

You know what Rakuga Kids lacks besides Michael Jackson? An in game move list. That makes any fighting game way more tedious to play. Does anyone know if he manual shares the moves for each character?



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1:11 PM - Feb 10, 2017 #14

@Shell, it does have the moves in the Rakuga Kids manual, but you can also find them online.
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2:00 PM - Feb 10, 2017 #15

Shellshocker18 wrote:Well, on the subject of Fighting games, Mace The Dark Age seems okay but playing against the Cpu opponents is brutal even on the easiest difficulty. The combat is okay but a bit janky then what I remember from Mk4. The executions are also really wimpy. It I guess Mk has desensatised me. Also I hate when console fighting games have time limits on the character select screen. I'm at home the timer is unnecessary.
Even the arcade version of Mace: The Dark Age is weak when compared to the PlayStation release of Soul Edge, but some people still stuck with it long enough to discover some devastating combos.

Mace combo and fatality video

The general consensus seems to be that Killer Instinct Gold is far and away the best legitimate fighting game on the N64. The fact that it doesn't have as many frames of animation as the arcade version Killer Instinct 2 ultimately forced many fighting game enthusiasts to view it with ambivalence, though. It's still a fun game, however, especially when you see really skilled players go at it.

Spinal (East14th) Vs. Jago (Cabdragon333) Killer Instinct 2 Casuals

N64 collectors should probably have both KI Gold and Mace in their library. I like the former well enough to have a complete example along with the SNES release of KI.



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2:14 PM - Feb 10, 2017 #16

I'm seeing Tom and Jerry: Fists of Furry on here and that brings back a lot of memories too. I picked up that game as quickly as I could when I was younger but I was stupid and gave it away about a year ago :P

I was never able to unlock the Team Battle mode back then - that might have improved the gameplay experience for me. What I did get to play, however, was pretty repetitive. I certainly enjoyed it when I was younger being a huge fan of Tom and Jerry and appreciating the irony of the same company producing a fighting game and the Elmo edutainment games. But it didn't age well.

It was an interesting twist on the fighting game formula by essentially giving us Mario 64 controls (A to jump, B to punch) but putting us in an arena environment. I could only play as the smaller characters though (Jerry, Tuffy, Tyke, Duckling) because the larger characters felt like wading in molasses. Also Spike basically had an infinite with just his jab combo that was really annoying. I'm sure there was some way to get out of it but I was too young and stupid to figure it out lol
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2:40 PM - Feb 10, 2017 #17

Here are all the fighting games I own for the N64.



Last Legion UX isn't in the picture even though I do own a copy because I don't really consider it a fighting game. It's more of an action game along the lines of Sega's Virtual On or possibly a third-person shooter like From Software's Armored Core franchise.
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2:47 PM - Feb 10, 2017 #18

So after watching some videos and giving it some thought, I'm hopefully picking up Fighter's Destiny AND Flying Dragon soon. Good prices on Lukiegames within my budget.

Thoughts on Xena?
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6:06 PM - Feb 10, 2017 #19

@Grizzmeister I've only ever played the new Killer Instinct but I'm glad to see that so many people got their fighting game fix on Killer Instinct Gold. Killer Instinct is fun but I've just never put enough time into it to really enjoy it. Maybe in the future. Also I won't deny that Mace can't be a fun game when you are good at it but it's a little too generic for me to ever want to put in the time to learn it. Also you didn't include Smash 64 in your picture, you trying to start something with me or did you just forget :P


@ItalianBaptist Glad to see someone interested in Flying Dargon and Fighter's Destiny because they are the 2 most unique fighters exclusive to the console and they both deserve a bit more praise, at least I know Fighter's Destiny does. I've never gotten into Flying Dragon much, it seems a bit lacking in the main fighting mechanics, but it has some fans too and I won't question their tastes.

I've said before that Xena is far better than you would expect from a licensed game but if I'm looking at it objectively it's a bit bland. What's good about Xena is that it is extremely simplistic and easy to pick up and play. Unlike many n64 fighters this game runs at a very decent frame rate which never dips and the controls are simple and respond immediately.

It only uses 4 attack buttons and the combat feels more out a hack n slash game than a fighter, probably because the PlayStation version turned out to be a hack n slash game. It has combos and juggles but they don't take much set up. You just button mash as until the preset combo plays out and then repeat. Every fight just plays out the same because it doesn't feel like there is any balance to anything and the movement is so free that the game boils down to just slash and run away when someone tries to hit you. You can parry and run up the walls to escape the corners but other than that it's really barebones.

For 5 dollars you may get a bit of multiplayer fun out of it. There is nothing horrifically wrong with it but it has 0 depth or nuance and there are no cool items or stages like in Smash to make it at least a bit random and fun.


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6:28 PM - Feb 10, 2017 #20

Shellshocker18 wrote:Also you didn't include Smash 64 in your picture, you trying to start something with me or did you just forget :P
Don't worry, I own several copies of Super Smash Bros. ;)

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