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that's what I didn't want to deal with you know. Cheap generic cables with issues. I have one of those multi console ones that have composite and S video and it looks like crap.thefifthgiant wrote:I have one of those generic combo composite/s-video cables, and it produces that "grid" pattern over s-video. I have seen generic ones work well, but try to find a dedicated s-video cable to make sure that it isn't actually a fake like mine was. I did eventually get a monster cable, but it was $12 to get it shipped here in the states. I didn't realize that they were actually expensive..
yeah I wouldn't doubt that but at least that's hardware related which I can stomach.swaaye wrote:I got a Monster Svideo cable for N64 a year ago for pretty cheap. It still has the visible pattern. I'm not convinced that pattern isn't something coming from N64's encoder. For that matter the N64 has an obvious color dither and its texture filtering is flawed and that too is a visible pattern.
I have a multi console S Video that also has a composite so from what I hear those are garbage.swaaye wrote:Well let us know if your cable improves things. I noticed slightly improved sharpness and color saturation.
I have read that too. The claim is that some Svideo+Composite cables just push a composite signal (C+Y) out each pin of SVideo and that this is the cause of the screendoor pattern. I have a multi-console cable and a Mad Catz SNES/GC/N64 cable (not Monster after all). They both have composite and S-Video. I've continuity checked both my cables and the SVideo is wired correctly with C and Y separate. The composite connector is actually on an entirely separate pin from those signals too.Kobeskillz wrote:I have a multi console S Video that also has a composite so from what I hear those are garbage.swaaye wrote:Well let us know if your cable improves things. I noticed slightly improved sharpness and color saturation.
I'm sure this should improve things.
I have the 1st Universal one you listed as well and that's the one that I mentioned is garbage.swaaye wrote:Ok I need to backpedal on my opinion of the cause of the checkerboard problem. I have been thinking more about it and reading more about it and I think it is a cable problem indeed. Some sort of signal quality and/or ground issue.
As I said I have two cables. I verified both of these have SVideo at least wired up correctly.
MadCatz Ultra S-Video/Audio Cable
MadCatz Universal S-Video Cable
I experimented with both cables and various inputs and games. The checkerboard varies by color which is probably a solid indication of signal issues. The "Ultra" cable is also considerably worse than the universal cable, even with its fancy claimed shielding and thicker wiring. Both cables have a ferrite core filter.
I get the impression that S-Video is a rather sensitive interface and is particularly susceptible to interference, crosstalk and ground problems.